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Post by faraim Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:56 pm

I'm not convinced my casting ability is match worthy. So, I need to order some .452 200 grain LSWC's. Are any brands preferred among you folks?
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Post by Olde Pilot Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:58 pm

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Post by Wobbley Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:08 pm

Brazos https://www.brazosprecision.com/

Magnus https://www.magnusbullets.com/

There are others, but these people have treated me very well.
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Post by John Dervis Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:10 pm

I use Zero 200 Gr LSWC which I found to be good and consistent.  They might be swagged vs cast but I don't remember for sure.

I have used bullets from Terry at Magnus as well and his products are top notch too.  I haven't used any of his 200 Gr so I am just going off his reputation and my experience with his 185s.

Brazos has a good following too although I think most of their offerings are coated. 

All three companies are running pretty far behind on orders so that will be a challenge.  I have ordered from both Magnus and Brazos during this ammo shortage and eventually got the orders but it took quite a while.

Good luck.
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Post by WesG Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:10 pm

I've not shot any 200's from Brazos, yet. But once the last of my Magnus 802's are gone I'll be switching. Much cleaner to handle and load than a greased bullet. I've been quite happy in that regard with the 160's, and some 38 bullets I got from them.

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Post by james r chapman Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:17 pm

james r chapman wrote:Are not the 802’s swaged?

Brazos are cast.
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Post by Wobbley Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:41 pm

Brazos coated.
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John Dervis wrote:I use Zero 200 Gr LSWC which I found to be good and consistent.  They might be swagged vs cast but I don't remember for sure.

I have used bullets from Terry at Magnus as well and his products are top notch too.  I haven't used any of his 200 Gr so I am just going off his reputation and my experience with his 185s.

Brazos has a good following too although I think most of their offerings are coated. 

All three companies are running pretty far behind on orders so that will be a challenge.  I have ordered from both Magnus and Brazos during this ammo shortage and eventually got the orders but it took quite a while.

Good luck.
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Post by james r chapman Tue Jul 27, 2021 10:01 pm

Brazos cast are coated Very Happy
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Post by chiz1180 Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:18 pm

I like both the Brazos and Zero. Haven't shot many of the 200s, but when I have they have shot well for me. I have shot quite a few of the Brazos coated 160s with great success and also can not say a bad thing about swaged lead. Both are quality.
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Post by WesG Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:13 am

"Are not the 802’s swaged"

I had to look. Magnus 802 is cast, swaged is 812. Both a clone of the H&G 68, I think.

I've also shot, and like, the 801 185 button nose (H&G 130). Although the 60's vintage slugs I have are heavier. Might just be the alloy. I have some from a friend, cast from an H&G mold, that are also well over 185 grains. He uses 20/1 alloy, not the typical Antimony alloys most commercial casters are using. Another nice looking bullet he has is a Lyman 452460.

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Post by James Hensler Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:52 am

I use 200 grain Zero SWC’s for the short line. 3.4 grains of N310 and they hold a tight x ring at 25 yards. The felt recoil is less than the snappy 160’s and I think they are slightly softer than 185’s 
I only use them for the short line normally but I do take some loaded with 4.4 on very windy days to help cut through the wind
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Post by ShooterSteve Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:22 pm

I like the Brazo's 200 gr Coated SWC sized .452".  Loaded with 4.0 gr Bullseye, Mixed Brass, Win Primer, 1.240 oal .467 crimp, Kimber w/Kart Barrel, 25 yard group measured 1.20" for 9 shots, 10th shot called (pulled left) opended group to 2.20".  This was with a Vortex Venom sight and rested on an MTM plastic pistol rest.  I've read that coated bullets may not shoot as tight as uncoated lead/wax bullets but I'm very impressed with them.  Very clean to handle and don't load up your dies with wax too.  Steve

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Post by kjanracing Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:47 pm

I got some X-Treme Bullets copper coated 200 gr SWCs.  I like them. They're peerty.  They're in stock and easy to get.
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Post by Orpanaut Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:25 pm

Precision Bullets makes a 200 gr swaged, coated .45 LSWC that is worth a try.

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Post by Texasref Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:43 pm

Another coated 200 SWC would be "DG Bullets".
All I've shot for the past few years, 45 and 9mm.

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Post by sbtzc Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:45 pm

Texasref wrote:Another coated 200 SWC would be "DG Bullets".
All I've shot for the past few years, 45 and 9mm.

DG (damn good) bullets are good, but they are out of stock right now because of a bad batch of HiTek coating.

SNS Casting makes good 200gr. coated bullets, lube groove or no groove. In my experience, the weight is very consistent and the casting is uniform and smooth.
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Post by Texasref Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:11 pm

true enough.
I ordered some anyway hoping they had some in reserve. No such luck.
Oh well

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Post by WillH Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:40 pm

I've had good luck with Oregon Trail Bullet Company / LaserCast.  https://oregontrailbullets.com/xcart/?target=product&product_id=68  They have a regular lube groove.  I recently ordered some and was told they were 6-8 weeks behind on shipping but mine were actually sent 2-3 weeks.   My past experience has been that weighing them doesn't show much variation but might recommend doing that as well as visual inspection if your intent is to use them for long line matches.
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Post by rich.tullo Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:29 pm

Brazos
Summers Enterprises 
Zero 
Penn
CJN Casting 
Magnus 

I have used the above and for the price Brazos are are the best and shoot as good as the Zero Swaged, and do not muck up my reloading equipment.
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Post by john bickar Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:01 pm

Bob's: https://www.bobsbullets.net/bullets/45-acp-200gn-swc
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Post by Gary Collette Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:52 pm

A High Master recently shared he uses Zero cast for short line and Zero 
185JHP for the long.
He shoots better than I ever will so I just ordered some cast and already have a few thousand 
of their 185 JHP.
I placed a thousand of their 38 HBWC on back order and will shoot them for short line.

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Post by BE Mike Thu Aug 05, 2021 9:35 am

Pretty much any decent .45 ACP bullet will hold the 10 ring at 25 yards. Nosler and Zero 185 gr. JHP shoot extremely well at 50 as long as the load is appropriate and the gun is up to snuff.
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