61st Annual Atlantic Fleet & All Navy (East) Championships (2023)

Neil308 wrote:This might help.
http://usnmt.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2023-Atlantic-Fleet-and-All-Navy-East-Match-Program.pdf

jmdavis wrote:Martin,

The first day you there will be a SAFS after which you will shoot a .22 900. The NMC of this match will be the EIC (so obviously at least the NMC should be shot with Irons).  If you do SAFS you will want your ball gun and some balll ammo, probably 30-40 rounds. They might let you shoot it with the 22 though.90 22 shots + extra

Day 2 will be a Fleet Service Pistol 900. The NMC of that match will serve as your Service Pistol EIC. If you shoot both Service Pistol Days, according to the program, Day 2 will be your EIC score. 90 shots + extra

Day 3 will be the All Navy Service Pistol 900.  For Navy Personnel the NMC will be an additional EIC.
Day 3 will also have a 20 shot long range match.  110 shots + extra

You will be able to shoot all of these.

Allgoodhits wrote:Please excuse my ignorance. I have signed up for the above match, and quite honestly, I am confused as heck as to what I have signed up for, how rds of ammo I will need and exactly what guns are permitted. 

Here is what I think I signed up for, in order on the confirmation. What I do know, is I only signed up for pistol matches.

CMP .22 EIC match (30 rds?)
Fleet Forces & All Navy Pistol Match  ( I have no idea what this is. Teams Maybe? )
Fleet EIC Pistol Match ( is this CF and is it a service gun or match gun? )
Fleet EIC Pistol match ( how many rds and is this a service pistol?)
All Navy Pistol Individual ( is this service pistol? )
All Navy Pistol EIC Match ( how many rds? (How does this differ from the Fleet EIC Pistol Match?)
Long Range Pistol Match Pistol ( again .22 or CF and is this a match pistol or service and rds?)
Action Pistol ( is gun and ammo provided, if not what is permitted and rds needed?)

Again, sorry for the ignorance, but this is arranged in a manner which I am not accustomed too. I am certain that I need both a .22 EIC gun and an EIC Service Pistol with iron sights. So based on above, what guns do I need and how many rds for each? 

Thank you in advance.

~ Martin

robert84010 wrote:

Allgoodhits wrote:Please excuse my ignorance. I have signed up for the above match, and quite honestly, I am confused as heck as to what I have signed up for, how rds of ammo I will need and exactly what guns are permitted. 

Here is what I think I signed up for, in order on the confirmation. What I do know, is I only signed up for pistol matches.

CMP .22 EIC match (30 rds?)
Fleet Forces & All Navy Pistol Match  ( I have no idea what this is. Teams Maybe? )
Fleet EIC Pistol Match ( is this CF and is it a service gun or match gun? )
Fleet EIC Pistol match ( how many rds and is this a service pistol?)
All Navy Pistol Individual ( is this service pistol? )
All Navy Pistol EIC Match ( how many rds? (How does this differ from the Fleet EIC Pistol Match?)
Long Range Pistol Match Pistol ( again .22 or CF and is this a match pistol or service and rds?)
Action Pistol ( is gun and ammo provided, if not what is permitted and rds needed?)

Again, sorry for the ignorance, but this is arranged in a manner which I am not accustomed too. I am certain that I need both a .22 EIC gun and an EIC Service Pistol with iron sights. So based on above, what guns do I need and how many rds for each? 

Thank you in advance.

~ Martin

Martin,

Can you elaborate on the practical/combat course of fire? Pretty sure this was the first year of that match.


Robert,

They referred to it as an Action Match. If there was any advance on what it was or what could be used, I never received it.
When I got there to shoot it, you could have brought your own gun, about anything, or shot one of the guns provided. The guns provided were different on the two stages. Having a very hi cap magazine would have been helpful since one stage had a minimum of 18 shots, all one string, all on the clock.

The first stage was all steel. My recall 3 steel targets at about 15 yds, then you had to run to another shooting box, shoot 12 falling plates, then run to another shooting box and shoot 3 more steel targets.
The second and 3rd stage had both steel and paper targets at 10 to maybe 20 yds. One of those stages required a mandatory reload, the other a hi cap would have been useful.

The Action Match was mostly fun, although pouring rain when I shot it. It would have been useful to have known a little as to what to expect, or what you could bring. I'm sure some knew, just not all.

Wobbley wrote:I looked on USNMT website and I couldn’t find any info either.  I think it would be useful to ”standardize” on a set of scenarios and scoring methods.  Say pick two or three from this https://uspsa.org/classifiers
which can be selected by the match director.  That way the scorers and safety officers know what is supposed to happen.  And they can change every year.