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Post by ScottSimmonds on 8/29/2011, 7:48 pm

Heresy Alert!

At this point, I have no interest in reloading. I want to spend my "free-time" training and shooting.

I have read the prior posts on Zinns Ammo.

Any suggestions as to other factory-made .45 ammo I should consider?

Thanks.

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Post by Rob Kovach on 8/29/2011, 10:54 pm

There really isn't anything else I have heard of that is designed for bullseye shooting.



If you find a friend at your club who reloads, buy your ammo from them. If you pay them the same that you would for over the counter ammo, it would be more than worth their trouble.
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Post by Jack H on 8/30/2011, 12:14 am

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Post by BE Mike on 8/30/2011, 10:03 am

Zero makes some very good ammo for bullseye pistol shooting. You can peruse it at www.rozedist.com
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Post by Orionsic on 9/3/2011, 7:02 pm

Jack H wrote:http://www.nsksales.com/pricing/BULLSEYEAMMO.pdf
I would use the 185 LSWCHP

This is supposed to be good stuff
http://www.atlantaarmsandammo.com/index.htm

Expect a 2-3 month wait for NSK and Zero..

I purchased a case of AAA's standard 185. I have shot a little over 250 rounds and have had no discrepancies with my Les Baer.
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Factory 45 Ammo

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Post by dthughes on 10/20/2011, 10:08 am

I've had good luck with the Wilson Combat 200 gr LSWC ammo.

http://shopwilsoncombat.com/45-ACP/products/305/

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Post by BE Mike on 10/20/2011, 11:18 am

It looks like Gunny Zins ammo is a bargain compared to some of the others.

http://www.mountaincompetitionpistols.com/GZAmmo1
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Post by Jack H on 10/20/2011, 12:51 pm

I did not know about TWO ammos until today. From the link above:
"Gunny Zins ammo packs are sold by the case at 1000 rounds. (500 rounds of 50 yard ammo and 500 yards [sic] of 25 yard ammo"

I got an order of 1000 rounds early on. The rounds tested on the chrono were like 690-710 fps. I bet these are the 25 yd. I better open the other box.
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Post by BE Mike on 10/20/2011, 4:02 pm

Jack H wrote:I did not know about TWO ammos until today. From the link above:
"Gunny Zins ammo packs are sold by the case at 1000 rounds. (500 rounds of 50 yard ammo and 500 yards [sic] of 25 yard ammo"

I got an order of 1000 rounds early on. The rounds tested on the chrono were like 690-710 fps. I bet these are the 25 yd. I better open the other box.
Did you machine rest the GZ ammo?
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Post by DavidR on 10/21/2011, 12:04 pm

I got a case, and its all the same boxed, never heard of the 25 and 50 till i just read it today.wonder how you know whats what lol! spray and pray i guess ??
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Post by M&N on 10/22/2011, 6:22 pm

Correct me if this is the wrong assumption. When you bought the ammo there was no mention of having 2 different loads. You were not given the option of 2 different loads or simply getting the 50 yard ammo and reloading your short line. There are no markings on the boxes so you have no way of distinguishing the difference between the two different loads.

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Post by Jack H on 10/23/2011, 1:19 am

M&N wrote:Correct me if this is the wrong assumption. When you bought the ammo there was no mention of having 2 different loads. You were not given the option of 2 different loads or simply getting the 50 yard ammo and reloading your short line. There are no markings on the boxes so you have no way of distinguishing the difference between the two different loads.

You are correct.
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Post by Rob Kovach on 10/23/2011, 6:30 pm

Jack H,

How did you figure out which ones were short line and which ones were long line?
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Post by Jack H on 10/23/2011, 7:10 pm

I have not done that yet. I do not know if my two 500 round boxes delivered are even different.
From the one chrono session, I think what I have shot so far is slow 25 yards stuff. When I get time soon I will chrono the other box.


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Post by M&N on 10/23/2011, 7:49 pm

Jack H wrote:I have not done that yet. I do not know if my two 500 round boxes delivered are even different.

Incredible. A truly unique way of doing business. Maybe MCP is just way ahead of it's time and I don't understand it.

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Post by DavidR on 10/24/2011, 11:36 am

When i wanted it, a couple of weeks before perry, I just sent a email to Brian and ordered it, there was no mention as to two different loads, i would not have bought it that way if i had known. I want the same consistency in the all the rounds. Maybe Brian can tell us how to determine what we have.
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Post by Joe C on 10/26/2011, 12:15 am

I have tested nearly every "factory" BE type ammo I can get my hands on in the past couple of years. The BEST I've found so far is the ASYM from Stan Chen. Not particularly cheap, but it is the best. Next would be Atlanta Arms and then the older Federal Match...


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Post by Jack H on 10/26/2011, 2:38 am

On my two delivered box lids there are different lot numbers el-markoed
Noslot
EI16f18-2
Noslot
EI23F18-3

I wonder if BZ can identify them. They might be Nosler Co. markings, but I doubt it.

I would just like to know if the second box here is the 50 yd ammo. Or are they both the same. Aw heck. I will probably chrono more this weekend. Maybe even Ransom some in the Toyota HB or wad. The HB was like 1" using the Nosler in Roddy's gun test target (4.3-4.4 N310). The wad was like 1.5" with cast lead. I also have some Federal Gold 185's for control.

For shooting comps, I just load 3.8-3.9 BE for lead. And 4.8 TG, or 5.1 N320 for HB, a little less maybe for 25yd.
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Post by DavidR on 10/26/2011, 9:49 am

I will email BZ and see what he says.
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Atlanta Arms Black Box

Post by gulliver62 on 11/1/2011, 5:01 am

I shoot Atlanta Arms Black Box (185g JHP) at the long line with good results.

Reloads at the short line and practice.
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Post by DavidR on 11/1/2011, 9:09 am

I emailed B. Zins over 10 days ago and he said the mixed cases of his ammo were marked, also said he would come here and post in this topic, but he did not do it.
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