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Hardball Loads

Post by TimC on 6/10/2011, 10:39 am

So, can we make a couple things sticky? Like

What is the Hardball load you use?

What is the Wad load you use?
for .45
for .38
for .32

Where is the best place for using WD40?

What's the difference between New Bullseye & Old Bullseye?

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Post by FaisalYamin on 6/10/2011, 10:44 am

I think all will happen, we just need the members and flow of posts. Then we'll have stickies too.

The more people participate the quicker things will get done. Today is just the first day Smile
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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by FaisalYamin on 6/10/2011, 10:45 am

TimC wrote:

Where is the best place for using WD40?

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Door hinges.. Laughing
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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by Black_Talon on 6/10/2011, 11:28 am

FaisalYamin wrote:
TimC wrote:

Where is the best place for using WD40?

TimC
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Door hinges.. Laughing

Yes, but certainly not on firearms!
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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by DavidR on 6/10/2011, 11:48 am

These forums have very many possibilities once the administrator has time to set up the forum, it needs to be set up with categories and then you place the topics pertaining to those in each. then sticky subjects can be listed. Im sure it will all come together but it takes a lot of time and work to get everything set up.
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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by vernic82 on 6/10/2011, 11:49 am

Add:

9mm HB loads
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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by DeweyHales on 6/10/2011, 12:53 pm

9mm Hardball loads I like:

115 FMJ from Sierra, Hornady, Precision Delta
4.8gr WSF, VVN330, or VVN340
Starline brass
Almost any primer
1.120-1.135"
.377 crimp

These work great in my Berettas.
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Post by Dave Wishart on 6/10/2011, 10:00 pm

I like the 45 acp load with the 230 fmj bullet, 4.5 grains Bullseye Powder.
The new Bullseye has been on the store shelves for 5 years or so, so unless you are using some real old stuff, you have the new.

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Post by Whippet on 6/11/2011, 2:09 am

[quote="FaisalYamin"]
TimC wrote:

Where is the best place for using WD40?

TimC
PHX,AZ

Shovels, rakes & similar implements of destruction. Certainly not on anything that needs quality lubrication.

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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by Jack H on 6/11/2011, 4:54 am

Wad 200 LSWC 3.8 BE, 185 LSWC 3.9 BE

HB 230 4.8 TG, 5.1 N320

45AR revolver 200 JSWC 4.8 BE



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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by Poldoc on 6/13/2011, 1:22 am

Hardball:
.45: Win 230 FMJ (1.265 COL)/4.9 Titegroup clocks 800 fps from my Mil-Spec, groups 1.7" off sandbags.
Berry's, Rainier and Rem clock same, groups not as tight but cheaper and OK for TF & RF. Hornady did not seem to group sufficiently tighter to justify the higher price.
9mm: Win 124 FMJ (1.150)/ 4.8 WSF clocks 1065 (subsonic) from M9 with Bar-Sto match barrel, 2.4" 25-yd groups.

Wadcutters:
.38 Special:Hornady 148 HBWC (flush with case mouth)/3.0 Titegroup clocks 815 from S&W K-38, groups 1.8"
Hornady 158 SWC (1.455)/3.5 Titegroup clocks 805 from K-38, 2.0" 25-yd groups
158 SWC load more easily than 148 WC for TF and RF stages
.45 Auto: Hornady 200 C/T (1.200)/4.6 Titegroup clocks 800 from Mil-Spec.

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Post by Powderman on 6/13/2011, 3:49 am

I use 3.8 of Clays under a 200 grain LSWC for my wad gun across the course; I've been thinking about 3.5 at the short line.

For ball, I've been using 6.1 of Power Pistol. Thinking about switching to Unique for that one.
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Zero Bullet 230g FMJ Round Nose

Post by Tim Young on 6/14/2011, 9:51 am

In looking to purchase a hardball bullet I discovered an interesting fact. Many folks that have tried to find the Zero Bullet 230g FMJ round nose find them "out of stock" If you go the the Zero Bullet web site it re-directs you to "Roze Distribution" to purchase. I found same thing "out of stock" but decided to place an order anyway. I had the order filled the next week. They cost about $125 for a thousand count box.

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Post by DavidR on 6/14/2011, 10:40 am

Tim Young wrote:In looking to purchase a hardball bullet I discovered an interesting fact. Many folks that have tried to find the Zero Bullet 230g FMJ round nose find them "out of stock" If you go the the Zero Bullet web site it re-directs you to "Roze Distribution" to purchase. I found same thing "out of stock" but decided to place an order anyway. I had the order filled the next week. They cost about $125 for a thousand count box.


Roze is owned by zero and is their retail outlet for zero bullets. Zero itself only sells to dealers.
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Post by Founder on 6/14/2011, 2:41 pm

I believe Zero was shut down for a while from the tornados and storms that ripped through the area. I heard they were back up and running. my guess is production is their top priority and updating the website no so critical.
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Post by Dave C. on 6/14/2011, 6:35 pm

5.1 Grains of Bullseye old or new, any good 230 FMJ.
Not a crappy plated bullet unless you're not going to
shoot the long line.

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Where is the best place to use WD40

Post by yankeeb on 6/18/2011, 3:39 pm

I'd say on your car door hinges, maybe on your house hold butt hinges the only other place I can tell is X rated so I won't.

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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by Slo cat on 6/19/2011, 10:01 pm

TimC wrote:Where is the best place for using WD40?
TimC, PHX,AZ

If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use Duct Tape.
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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by DavidR on 6/20/2011, 10:38 am

A good load i ransomed was Vit 320, 5 grains, factory round OAL and crimp with Sierra 230 fmj, it tested 3'' out of a 5'' kart barrel. 4.5 gr, for short line. Also we tested American Eagle factory 230 and it did about 4'' which isn't bad for cheap factory ammo.
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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by Founder on 6/20/2011, 11:30 pm

There are so many loads and so many variables. The load I use may not work in your gun! I was using 4.0 BE under 200gr LSWC for long line and 185gr LSWC for short. Never had to adjust the dot. A friend of mine was doing just the opposite 185 LSWC long line and 200 short, never had to adjust the scope but thats what worked for him and his gun.
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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by Kermit Workman on 6/21/2011, 8:57 pm

I noticed that Big Lots has a Pen style applicator filled with WD40.
The advertising slogan was "WD40 just where you need it" It had a picture of WD40 being applied to the crank handle of a fishing reel. Application was thru a sponge: cannister was not an aresol can. Price was $1.20.

My .45 Hardball load is 4.3 gn. BE over a Sierra 230 gn. Roundnose
My .38 load looks to be 3.3 gn. of Solo 1000 over a home cast 158 gn. SWC. See my report in "Reloading"

The best place for WD40 is all over the outside of your gunbox to repel the Camp Perry wind and rain. Gun Box is less likely to blow off the bench at Perry due to the decrease in wind resistence against your gun box.

All my Bullseye powder is over 5 years old. I thought you were talking about the change in Bullseye back around 1965. I didn't know about a recent change

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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by Wes Lorenz on 7/3/2011, 6:20 pm

What is the Hardball load you use?
What is the Wad load you use?
for .45
for .38
for .32
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Hi Tim,
Hardball - Rem 230gr RN, 4.2gr TiteGroup, Win Primer, 1.265 OAL
Wad Load - Well cast/swaged LSWC, 4.2gr TiteGroup, Win Primer, .469" crimp
.38spl - Cast/swaged LSWC, 3.1gr 231, Fed Primer.

Over the years I've discovered just about any well made bullet groups well. It's trigger control that puts them in the 10 ring.
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Re: Hardball Loads

Post by Art on 7/4/2011, 12:01 pm

I tried a load that Neil of NSK recommended to me:

230g Zero FMJ, 4.2g N310; COL 1.26"

In Ransom Rest testing they shot 10 ring at 50yds.

The part I liked best was how light a load they were - recoil was barely more than my wadgun load.

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Post by XXXXXXXXXX on 8/6/2011, 5:16 pm

For the 1911 Ball gun:
I like 4.8 Titegroup for the long line and 4.4 Titegroup for the short.

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