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Post by JimTMich Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:59 am

I'm a casual Bullseye shooter, but like to do thing well and am competitive.  25 years ago when I took up bullseye at the local club I got up to a high of 877 with a Ruger MKII with the usual mods(volquartsen trigger, Vitarbo grips, Sightron tube dot).  I put that down when I started having children and have been raising children for 20 years and things are calming down, so now I would like to pick this back up again.  I shot a winter league this year and have been shooting 830-861.  What I find is that I don't have the strength to hold up the 58oz gun for slowfire without shaking coming on.  If I pick up my son's Ruger 22/45 lite, my slowfire scores jump and it's so much easier.  
I hope to start shooting some 2700 point matches so I'm leaning towards the Nelson conversion on a dedicated lower.  The 1911 I have with Kart barrel and Vitarbo grips feels so right and even with open sites I can put up 90+ slow fires with 45ACP.

Are there any drawbacks to this plan?  I don't want to jump on a fad bandwagon, but it sure looks like a good path.

I would appreciate your wisdom.
Jim

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Post by mspingeld Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:22 pm

The shakes could just be a conditioning issue. I love my Nelson and so do many champions so there's nothing wrong with your plan.

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Post by JimTMich Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:25 pm

mspingeld wrote:The shakes could just be a conditioning issue......
I agree 100%......  been jogging more and ignoring the weights too much.  Got to make time for both.

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Post by mspingeld Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:05 pm

For conditioning, I recommend dry firing and shooting as much league and as many matches as you can. Avoid heavy weights. We're going for endurance and fine motor skills here, not brute strength.

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Post by dronning Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:40 pm

mspingeld wrote:For conditioning, I recommend dry firing and shooting as much league and as many matches as you can. Avoid heavy weights. We're going for endurance and fine motor skills here, not brute strength.
+1, but if you want to use weights use 5lb max with high reps of imitating pistol stance and raise, hold for 10-20sec.  Do both arms, because it also helps your core.  For weights I use a plastic bag with a 2 liter bottle of water in it.  This allows me to use the rubber ring grip exerciser (or my pistol) so I am working my grip strength and arm and wrist strength all at the same time.

Core: Planks
Wrist: Gyro Ball (recommended by Zins), it works your wrist and forearm.
Grip: I like the rubber grip rings, Gripmaster, IronMind Captains of Crush Hand Gripper, or a ton of others.

- Dave
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Post by Stewswanson Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:51 pm

I use a 1/2 Gallon milk jug filled almost to the top with water (aprox. 4 pounds) and have swapped my 5 1/2\" bull barrel for a 4 1/2 slabside on my Mk. 3. I am 77 years old and even with conditioning the lighter combo is working better. The few people in my league that are using LITE's are not doing all that well in T/R. I think they may be too light.dronning wrote:
mspingeld wrote:For conditioning, I recommend dry firing and shooting as much league and as many matches as you can. Avoid heavy weights. We're going for endurance and fine motor skills here, not brute strength.
+1, but if you want to use weights use 5lb max with high reps of imitating pistol stance and raise, hold for 10-20sec.  Do both arms, because it also helps your core.  For weights I use a plastic bag with a 2 liter bottle of water in it.  This allows me to use the rubber ring grip exerciser (or my pistol) so I am working my grip strength and arm and wrist strength all at the same time.

Core: Planks
Wrist: Gyro Ball (recommended by Zins), it works your wrist and forearm.
Grip: I like the rubber grip rings, Gripmaster, IronMind Captains of Crush Hand Gripper, or a ton of others.

- Dave

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Post by jimsteele Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:50 am

jimtmich, you're an inspiration. Your story is so similar to mine (except your come back scores are better) that I now believe I CAN shoot expert scores once again.

I think a dedicated Nelson is the way to go. That is what I did when my old High Standard developed problems that todays gunsmiths were unfamiliar with. And parts were a problem also. No parts problems with a Nelson.

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Post by JimTMich Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:12 pm

Thanks for the observation that the lite may be too lite for R/T.  That certainly is a concern.
I appreciate all the great training pointers.

Thanks Jimsteele, keep working on a new high score for the decade or century. Smile

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