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Post by Slartybartfast on 2/21/2020, 7:38 am

So, here's the situation: 
At my previous club, targets were hung on a wire at the target line with clothes pins.
Eventually, I came up with the idea to use a foam-board backer, installed hooks, glued a target to it, and used photo corners to hold repair centres.
Worked perfectly. Never had a repair centre fall out. Changing them was quick and easy. One foam board and target lasted me a VERY long time.

Now, I'm at a club with motorised target retrieval and target backers hanging from wires. The carrier bounces so much that the repair centre bounces out of the photo corners.

So I would really like to find some way to clip/secure the repair centre to the backer/target without using staples or glue.
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Post by Ed Hall on 2/21/2020, 8:00 am

If you're still using a sturdy enough backer, you could try some short dry wall screws from the back, positioned so you can push the center onto the screws at the center's corners.  We (and several other places) use a similar setup for our 50 ft Indoor leagues.

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Post by Slartybartfast on 2/21/2020, 8:15 am

Ed Hall wrote:you could try some short dry wall screws from the back, positioned so you can push the center onto the screws at the center's corners
Neat idea, might try it. But makes transporting the backer annoying (I transported the backers in an artist folio). Would have to install and remove the screws at the range each time. Not certain the foam board would hold up.
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Post by impalanut on 2/21/2020, 8:31 am

Glue stick?

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Post by james r chapman on 2/21/2020, 8:48 am

We use the corners off repair centers, glued or taped on the backer.
Basically very large photo corners

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Post by bruce martindale on 2/21/2020, 1:00 pm

Pins, the ones with a 22 shell like body

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Post by Slartybartfast on 2/21/2020, 1:57 pm

james r chapman wrote:We use the corners off repair centers, glued or taped on the backer.
Basically very large photo corners
I think the simple answer is the winner!
And all I can think is WTH didn't I think to try that? Once again stuck because I was over-thinking it.
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Post by james r chapman on 2/21/2020, 2:20 pm

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Post by Al on 2/21/2020, 5:12 pm

Been using staples outdoors for number of years, any reason why not indoors?

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Post by james r chapman on 2/21/2020, 5:59 pm

Indoors on backers cut fingers
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Post by jchurch on 2/21/2020, 7:05 pm

2 in squares cut from old targets filded once i to triangles work quite well.  Sorry no photo.

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Post by patch175 on 2/23/2020, 4:25 am

Been using 1/4" JT21 for 20+ years on cardboard backers. Just make sure your fingers are not behind the place where you stapling (that hurts). Outdoors in the wind may need extra stables to hold the target on the cardboard. Indoor a staple in 2 diagonal corners works fine for me.

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Post by Ray Bersch on 2/24/2020, 6:17 am

james r chapman wrote:Indoors on backers cut fingers
I have been using staples ever since I started shooting - well, ok, that's been two years - but I remove all staples from my backers as a common courtesy to the next shooter - and wish more would do the same.
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Post by dronning on 2/24/2020, 6:27 am

Ray Bersch wrote:
james r chapman wrote:Indoors on backers cut fingers
I have been using staples ever since I started shooting - well, ok, that's been two years - but I remove all staples from my backers as a common courtesy to the next shooter - and wish more would do the same.

+1 on using staples, I have a staple remover in my shoot box, on the rare occasion I'm not carrying my toad stabber.
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Post by sbtzc on 2/24/2020, 7:18 am

Masking tape

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Post by BE Mike on 2/24/2020, 7:44 am

dronning wrote:
Ray Bersch wrote:
james r chapman wrote:Indoors on backers cut fingers
I have been using staples ever since I started shooting - well, ok, that's been two years - but I remove all staples from my backers as a common courtesy to the next shooter - and wish more would do the same.

+1 on using staples, I have a staple remover in my shoot box, on the rare occasion I'm not carrying my toad stabber.
My staple gun is equipped with an integral staple remover on the bottom, on the opposite end where the staples come out. It has a pointed end. Don't the new ones come with that?
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Post by Slartybartfast on 2/24/2020, 11:47 am

I carry my backer home with me.
If I keep it to the repair centre, I can be using the same target and backer for a very long time.
So besides the issues with staples in my carry bag, run out of places to securely staple eventually.
Besides, pulling the old repair centre out and sticking a new one in is so quick and easy using corners.
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Post by dronning on 2/24/2020, 12:35 pm

BE Mike wrote:My staple gun is equipped with an integral staple remover on the bottom, on the opposite end where the staples come out. It has a pointed end. Don't the new ones come with that?
I may have to upgrade - LOL
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Post by sharkdoctor on 2/24/2020, 3:17 pm

I can't believe I am responding to a string on how to attach centers lol! but here goes.  I and fellow competitors have been using a stapler for eons at local, state and regional matches - wherever there has been a match - all but the nationals where we get new paper and backers.  Works well, and easy to remove staples - just pull the stack of centers.  I will add my pet peeve are the shooters using those huge industrial Arrow staples that are dangerous to those repairing and replacing backers.  JT21's and similar work well.

Oh, and if you use colored masking tape or corners so that you might better recognize your target and reduce crossfires, see rule 14.11.

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Post by Slartybartfast on 2/25/2020, 7:00 am

sharkdoctor wrote:Oh, and if you use colored masking tape or corners so that you might better recognize your target and reduce crossfires, see rule 14.11.

It's amusing that people really seem stuck on repeating that staples are the standard. Anytime I'm at a range that has target holders that secure the backer, I use staples. Particularly outdoors where even stapled centres can come free in the wind. But where I shoot regularly is indoors with suspended targets. Good luck holding the backer, the target you're trying to put up, and the stapler. So tape is used. Haven't been to a huge number of indoor ranges, but seems to me that taping targets to backers is standard everywhere that there's an overhead retrieval system.

This isn't for use in competition so an over zealous interpretation of rule 14.11 is irrelevant.

But in the interest of realistic training I want the target to not look any different. So, going to try folded corners and transparent tape. Shouldn't be noticeable with the target at the back of the room ~23yds

My next step I suppose is to finally relent and start using NRA targets and not the Shooting Federation of Canada reduced ISSF targets (which are cheap and easy to obtain because I can print them myself).
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