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HS Camp Perry Model 1911

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Post by Tim:H11 Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:08 pm

High Standard Camp Perry Model 1911 ..

I've never heard of or seen these before but I came across one recently and I know nothing of them. I'm curious. Are they like a Springfield Range Officer or something comparable?
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Post by cdrt Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:00 pm

From what I remember, they did not make them for very long.  They were prior to the new rules, so they were a basic hardball gun; bo-mar sights, regular slide stop and grip safety, spur hammer, front strap stipling, arched mainspring housing and wood checkered grips.
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Post by Tim:H11 Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:23 pm

cdrt wrote:From what I remember, they did not make them for very long.  They were prior to the new rules, so they were a basic hardball gun; bo-mar sights, regular slide stop and grip safety, spur hammer, front strap stipling, arched mainspring housing and wood checkered grips.

Thanks. I'm wondering if they were built well..? Ever here of any accuracy reports from the manufacturer or anyone else?
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Post by mikemyers Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:46 pm

HS Camp Perry Model 1911 High-Standard-1911-Camp-Perry-415-A-C-P_100977281_12059_F2EDE4A7B04F780B

Doing a search for "High Standard Camp Perry Model 1911" led me to lots of photos.
I wonder if they're worth more because High Standard fans collect them?

Added later - I guess not.  There's a brand new one on Gunbroker for $730

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/872294568
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Post by Tripscape Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:57 pm

Not sure about Camp Perry model but High Standard 1911 is NOT well regarded. Never handled one, just passing on what I have researched.
Looking at Camp Perry model - front strap is stippled in a cool old school way, but thumb safety has no blend to it and beavertail safety has no blend either, like a poor afterthought.  When there is no attention paid to the outside, then it's safe to assume there is no attention paid to the inside, hence the price.

Little digging:

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/the-high-standard-45-camp-perry-model.1137097/

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Post by cdrt Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:00 am

Tripscape wrote:Not sure about Camp Perry model but High Standard 1911 is NOT well regarded. Never handled one, just passing on what I have researched.
Looking at Camp Perry model - front strap is stippled in a cool old school way, but thumb safety has no blend to it and beavertail safety has no blend either, like a poor afterthought.  When there is no attention paid to the outside, then it's safe to assume there is no attention paid to the inside, hence the price.
Little digging:
https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/the-high-standard-45-camp-perry-model.1137097/
That's not a beavertail grip safety; it's a standard grip safety like you would find on any original 1911 or 1911A1 before someone created the beavertail grip safety. Same for the thumb safety; original to the 1911/911A1.  Prior to the rule changes a few years ago, that's what an EIC pistol had to look like.  No forward slide cuts, as well, like they allow now.  According to a source, the King Gunsight Company "invented" the beavertail grip safety in 1977, which sounds about right.
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Post by Tripscape Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:59 am

Right, I understand GI safety, just used a wrong word. In any case, looks like they just dropped it in without any consideration to blending.

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Post by Dr.Don Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:23 am

The point he is making is that they were all like that.  When the DCM controlled leg points in the old days, the idea was you shot the match with essentially a GI pistol that was allowed to be accurized (all work on the inside) and with decent sights added, but that was pretty much it.  The ball gun I legged out with in 1991 was built from scratch but it looks just like that.


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Post by LenV Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:45 pm

Because of item for sale in classifieds I decided to bump this to top. Only because I don't know how to move it there

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Post by BE Mike Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:11 am

I wouldn't pay $1,700 for a pistol touted as an out of the box match pistol, with likely, MIM internal parts, i.e. hammer and sear and assembled by who knows. I'd save up my pennies and put another grand into something that has a record of excellence, like a Rock River Hardball true match pistol, Springfield Armory Custom Shop, etc. I might even wait until I saw a good used hardball pistol on sale that was done by a well-known bullseye pistolsmith. Of course, I don't need one since I have a Clark accurized hardball gun, sitting in the safe, that I used to earn my Distinguished Pistol Shot Badge!Very Happy
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