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Post by radjag Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:50 pm

Anyone have any advice, opinion or recommendations on the various electronic target systems that are available for use with an air pistol at 10m at home?

I tried searching for past threads, but came up blank. I know that this subject has come up before, if anyone can point me to the relevant thread that would be great. Thanks.

I just found the thread I knew existed. On Target Talk

https://targettalk.org/viewtopic.php?t=61091&start=20


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Post by zanemoseley Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:15 pm

Never mind I though you were talking about turning targets. I made a custom bullet trap with a lead backer and lights for my basement and use a spotting scope.


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Post by Sa-tevp Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:21 pm

radjag wrote:Anyone have any advice, opinion or recommendations on the various electronic target systems that are available for use with an air pistol at 10m at home?

I tried searching for past threads, but came up blank. I know that this subject has come up before, if anyone can point me to the relevant thread that would be great. Thanks.

I dunno. I compete on Megalink systems and there is also Sius and Kongsberg in the market. My basement range is a .22 bullet trap and a spotting scope. Maybe a SCATT system at home would fill in for the electronic systems at a competitive price.

https://www.megalink.no/en/products.html

https://sius.com/en/

http://www.kongsberg-ts.no/en/index.php?pageID=36&openLevel=33

http://champchoice.com/store/Main.aspx?p=ItemDetailOptions&item=40801
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Post by chiz1180 Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:26 pm

inband air is one that I have considered. Bigger names would be athena and megalink. The king being suis as that is required for top tier competition.

Personally don’t have one, haven’t quite justified one.

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Post by Sa-tevp Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:41 pm

chiz1180 wrote:inband air is one that I have considered. Bigger names would be athena and megalink. The king being suis as that is required for top tier competition.

Personally don’t have one, haven’t quite justified one.

Since I looked them up here are links:

https://www.inband.us/

https://www.orionscoringsystem.com/orion/AboutAthena.aspx

I think part of my reluctance of the electronic systems is you still need to have consumable target faces and paper rolls. Is it really an advantage on a small scale compared to Kruger targets?
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Post by chiz1180 Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:07 pm

Sa-tevp wrote:I think part of my reluctance of the electronic systems is you still need to have consumable target faces and paper rolls. Is it really an advantage on a small scale compared to Kruger targets?

I think to some extent it depends on range location. A friend of mine has his air gun range in his basement with the pellet trap at the end of the crawl space. In that case electronic would be a greater benefit. The possibility of data recording and being able to visualize the overall group size for a series of shots is cool.

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Post by Sa-tevp Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:25 pm

chiz1180 wrote:
Sa-tevp wrote:I think part of my reluctance of the electronic systems is you still need to have consumable target faces and paper rolls. Is it really an advantage on a small scale compared to Kruger targets?

I think to some extent it depends on range location. A friend of mine has his air gun range in his basement with the pellet trap at the end of the crawl space. In that case electronic would be a greater benefit. The possibility of data recording and being able to visualize the overall group size for a series of shots is cool.

The handcrank target carriers worked well and used ones can be found. There were even motorized versions made.

http://champchoice.com/store/Main.aspx?p=ItemDetailOptions&item=180LP

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I am not intending to be contrary but the electronic systems are expensive. If it is something someone wants, great.
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Post by Jwhelan939 Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:58 pm

I have the manual system that sa-tevp. I no longer have an airgun, but I loved this target system when I was shooting everyday. It was convenient and helped check targets without moving feet and whatnot. Plus it was significantly cheaper than the electronic systems.

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Post by radjag Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:06 am

Sa-tevp made a very thought provoking comment 
Is it really an advantage on a small scale compared to Kruger targets?

I am stuck at home and had been printing targets on ordinary copy paper - it is hopeless for 10 shots on one target. As usual I was over-thinking the problem. I saw one of ZaneJ's videos and immediately started to think about an electronic target. But as I am only usually here for a few months each year and I am not "dedicated" to AP practise, it is very hard to justify ~$1k for an electronic kit.

I have not found a local source of decent targets - but Kruger Germany can ship - lets see what that might cost. KISS!

Appreciate all of the helpful advice and comments though.

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Post by willnewton Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:25 am

radjag wrote:I am stuck at home and had been printing targets on ordinary copy paper - it is hopeless for 10 shots on one target.

Radjag, instead of ten shots per target, you could try five per target using an NRA B-40/4.

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Post by Sa-tevp Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:26 am

The Kruger targets are one of the nicer things in life as the cardstock makes for sharp clean holes. Champion's Choice and Cibles Canada Targets are other sources. I put about 20 shots on a target (usually until I can't call/find my shot) before replacing the target. I keep the used targets for taking notes on my workbench or cutting down for grocery lists.

The Air Pistol targets also make good 25 yard rifle offhand targets if I am testing a rifle at an indoor range.
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Post by chiz1180 Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:26 am

The Orion paper targets (champions choice #TAR004C) are good too, from a paper perspective. My only issue with the 4 bull targets is that they don't fit my pellet trap.


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Post by radjag Sun Jan 31, 2021 10:53 am

Thanks for suggestions re alternative paper (pasteboard?) targets.

I am currently back at my primary "home" in Thailand (long, boring story) and cannot just hit " buy" on Amazon.

I have a standard pellet trap and one I made to suit A4 paper "ten bull" prints. The latter were fine last winter when I had a red dot on the AP. But now I want to train seriously with iron sights and sub-6 hold, so BDM (Black Diameter Matters)!

I placed a tentative order with Kruger Germany, expect that I will get the confirmation of shipping cost (6kg) by their Monday. Step by step!

I experimented running some thick card through my printer today, OK. Happens that I am also trying to fine tune a custom front sight post, a new grip, experimenting with corrective lens/apertures, and new range setup simultaneously. Chaos!

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Post by Wobbley Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:12 am

Just glue the printer paper to a cardboard box like a cereal box or heavy construction paper.  Sharp crisp holes.
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Post by javaduke Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:55 pm

There's also this interesting project: https://free-e-target.com
I've been thinking about an electronic target myself, and playing with RaspberryPI and global shutter cameras, but I haven't made a lot of progress yet...

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Post by Oleg G Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:35 pm

Kruger has a US site. I ordered from them in the past. Shipping is a bit high, but the targets are great.

https://www.kruger-us-targets.com/index.php/targets/usa-shooting-issf-targets-2/target-for-air-pistol-numbered-3000-n-usas.html
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Post by Gravelyctry Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:36 pm

I’m not sure if this is what you’re looking for, as it’s not an actual electronic target system.  I bought an old vcr camera, and then ran a rca cable to a tv I set up where I shoot.  I can display a closeup of my target while I shoot.

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