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Post by funski Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:09 am

First topic message reminder :

What is a safe way to dry fire my Model 41??   Is an empty case in the chamber good enough or is there a dry fire gismo I can purchase, make?  Also where are places I can purchase 41 parts such as a firing or springs etc.   
Thanks in advance

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Post by Blazin Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:15 pm

wingnut170 wrote:
TonyH wrote:I'll look into it....give me a few days.
Have you decided to make any more of these? I would like two if you do.....Thanks....Ray
Put me down for one as well.

Thanks,
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Post by wingnut170 Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:41 pm

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Would you consider making 2 of these for me?  Thanks Ray

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Post by Fezzik68 Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:31 pm

I am dusting off my 3D printer and will be in touch.
I've been cleaning out Dad's workshop(s) since he passed back in Sept.
Work, leagues & cleanout have kept me busy.

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Post by Soupy44 Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:59 am

I'd take a few too. I imagine these last longer than wall anchors by a long shot. Has anyone ever worn one out?

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Post by OldShooter43 Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:18 am

I'll sign up for two as well if you're willing to go into a short term "production run".

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Post by CLM Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:21 am

I would take several also !

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Post by Fezzik68 Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:02 pm

First thing is...which 41 do you have?
I think 1978 & older looks like this.Model 41 dry fire - Page 2 20220310

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Post by Fezzik68 Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:03 pm

Newer ones look like this.
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Post by Fezzik68 Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:12 pm

Big difference in how the plug is made.
I am currently without a CAD program for home use, last good one went subscription.

The only 3D model I have is for the newer style.
The plugs will eventually wear out. They de-laminate.
Baby blue is cheap PLA, I changed to Carbon Fiber PLA and they last longer.
The hammer hits where the dent is on the right side& it never hits the firing pin. You only need to pull the slide back enough to cock the hammer. Easier than chamber plugs.
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Post by Fezzik68 Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:15 pm

Sits this way. (Disassembly for pic only)
Pull slide back, drop in, slide forward, dry fire.
*Remember to take it out before the match!
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Post by wingnut170 Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:37 pm

Fezzik68 wrote:Newer ones look like this.
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Mine are the newer style, if they will be available I would still like 2 when available.....Thanks Ray

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Post by GME Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:36 pm

I'm in for a few.

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Post by wingnut170 Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:49 am

Mine are the newer style, if they will be available I would still like 2 when available.....Thanks Ray

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Post by OldShooter43 Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:05 am

Mine is also the newer style so I'd like 2 when they may be available.

Thanks

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Post by sayracin Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:25 am

Hi, I would also like two
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Post by mikemyers Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:05 am

When I bought the Clark barrel for my 41, I spoke to a lady who was on the Clark Shooting Team.  She told me she constantly dry-fires her 41, with no issues.  I checked that there were no signs of impact from my firing pin on my barrel, and tried what she suggested.  For years, there have been no issues, and no signs of any potential damage.  I wish I could remember her name.

This was with the Clark barrel that I bought.  I never asked her if that advice was equally true for Model 41 standard barrels.

I would still be dry-firing that gun, had I not eventually settled on my Nelson kit.  Speaking of the Nelson, Larry Nelson tells me I can dry-fire that gun as much as I want, and it will not cause any issues.  In the past, as I recall one person did have issues, so Larry redesigned the parts.  

I still love my Model 41, and my High Standards, but I pretty much settled on the Nelson, for lots of reasons. My other guns are "prettier", but the Nelson seems to be as good as it gets - for me.  Dry-firing the Nelson is like dry-firing a standard 1911.  Do it as much as you want, no snap-caps needed.

Another shooter on the Army shooting team came to my range with a Pardini, and let me take a few shots with it.  Lovely, beautiful, fantastic gun - but he tells me he gets equally good results with his Nelson.


Meanwhile, back to this thread, you might consider calling Clark, and asking if they have any of their custom barrels in stock.  They come with a built-in rail, and they have three to choose from.  Someone else in this forum will need to tell you how the Clark barrels perform compared to stock - my only stock Model 41 barrel was the long version, 7" I think, with open sights.
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Post by REConley Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:52 am

Regarding how Clark 41 barrel shoot here Is a 50 yard 10 shot group. Model 41 dry fire - Page 2 20200610Model 41 dry fire - Page 2 20200610Model 41 dry fire - Page 2 20200610
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Post by REConley Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:53 am

My bad , sending photo from phone 1st time.
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Post by mikemyers Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:03 pm

REConley wrote:My bad , sending photo from phone 1st time.
No problem,  you did fine!  Thanks for posting.

Did you do a similar test with the stock barrel?
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Post by REConley Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:03 pm

No, but I have several Clark 41 barrels, STC and BOP in both 5 1/2 and 6 1/2 and they all look like that group.
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Post by Blazin Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:48 pm

REConley wrote:No, but I have several Clark 41 barrels, STC and BOP in both 5 1/2 and 6 1/2 and they all look like that group.
Thanks for the group pic. I backordered a Clark BOP barrel (with irons, it was expen$ive) yesterday, and was wondering if would be worth it.

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Post by mikemyers Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:02 pm

I nice bonus is the built-in rail, that allows you to mount the sight very low.  

Someone better than me will need to tell you "how good" it is, but in the discussions long ago, everyone was very enthusiastic about it.  I certainly have no complaints.

(My 41 mostly got replaced by my Nelson Conversion, but I've got lots of good memories, and never really even considered selling it.   It was the third gun I ever bought, and I had no idea why I would want it, but my co-worker told me I'd appreciate it later......)
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Post by REConley Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:27 pm

Blazin wrote:
REConley wrote:No, but I have several Clark 41 barrels, STC and BOP in both 5 1/2 and 6 1/2 and they all look like that group.
Thanks for the group pic. I backordered a Clark BOP barrel (with irons, it was expen$ive) yesterday, and was wondering if would be worth it.

The price is a bit expensive I should know as I paid for one yesterday and FedEx will have it Monday. 
A 5 1/2 BOP with Black and Black sights.
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Post by Blazin Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:58 pm

REConley wrote:
Blazin wrote:
REConley wrote:No, but I have several Clark 41 barrels, STC and BOP in both 5 1/2 and 6 1/2 and they all look like that group.
Thanks for the group pic. I backordered a Clark BOP barrel (with irons, it was expen$ive) yesterday, and was wondering if would be worth it.

The price is a bit expensive I should know as I paid for one yesterday and FedEx will have it Monday. 
A 5 1/2 BOP with Black and Black sights.

I have to admit I was a bit astonished at the price, but I figured it would be one barrel to rule them all. Now I need to find a 41!

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Post by REConley Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:31 pm

You will have time for your search. I ordered that barrel, along with trigger and Clark's reliability work 7/2021. Yesterday it was ready for shipment. 
You might have a much shorter wait time as they have had issues obtaining barrel steel this past year. Hopefully that issue has passed.
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