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Post by Ray Dash Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:23 am

A while back I saw a AW93 that was being sold with a different trigger shoe. I checked FWB and see that they do sell a Vario trigger that is different than the stock trigger but also different than the one I saw being sold on the pistol here. I am guessing that the trigger being sold was either not listed as fitting the AW93 but still worked or was modified to fit the AW93. 

The trigger shoe on the one being sold looked and operated just like the shoe that is on my Walther SSP, you are able to rotate the shoe. The one I see listed for the Aw93 as the Vario trigger is a bit different and still rotates but in a different way (around the post). I am sure the person that bought the used AW93 is a member here and I am hoping they can post some closer pics here if possible. 

Here is the trigger shoe that I am looking for on the AW93 that was sold. 
https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t12584-sold-wts-feinwerkbau-aw93-extras-lnib-condition?highlight=aw93


I also posted the picture of the Vario trigger that is being sold which is different.
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Post by NukeMMC Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:58 am

Maybe a Lottes Putter?  I use one on my Steyr Evo10 and like it better than the Vario that comes with the pistol.
https://www-lottessporttechnik-de.translate.goog/produkte/putter/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
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Post by -TT- Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:39 pm

Yeah, that was me who ended up buying it, actually. That trigger is a Feinwerkbau part and it's very nice, adjustable every which way since the trigger blade gimbals on a ball joint. I much prefer it to the standard (fixed) trigger.

I'm happy to take some closeups maybe tomorrow. I have a part number but it's in a box somewhere so I'll have to dig that out later.

NukeMMC - I don't think the Lottes will fit. It clamps onto a round shaft, while the AW93 has a tiny dovetail.
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Post by Ray Dash Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:29 pm

That would be great!
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Post by Ray Dash Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:55 am

I believe I have found the trigger here. 

https://www.sportec.se/produkter/delarochtillbehor/avtryckare-vario-fwb-aw93


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Post by -TT- Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:48 am

Here are some photos, including the bag which confirms the part # 35560210

I angle the trigger blade somewhat up and left, which means my down and left finger placement rests very naturally across it. It works much better for me than the flat bladed stock trigger.

Left side view

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Right side view (I add a thin strip of grip tape to the front surface, and to the front of the exposed frame)

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Showing the advantage of angled trigger finger alignment (for me anyway)

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Two triggers Smile for comparison

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Part bag

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Post by lyoke Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:03 am

Not to derail but what material did you put on the trigger? Grip tape or something?

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Post by -TT- Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:29 am

lyoke wrote: Grip tape or something?

Yep, this stuff: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ATH0KEA/

I find it helps a lot on the face of the trigger. I also apply it to the front strap, sometimes two layers of it there, to give a little more volume under the middle and ring fingers.

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Post by lyoke Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:38 am

I'll check it out. Thanks!

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Post by Ray Dash Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:45 pm

-TT- wrote:Here are some photos, including the bag which confirms the part # 35560210

I angle the trigger blade somewhat up and left, which means my down and left finger placement rests very naturally across it. It works much better for me than the flat bladed stock trigger.

Left side view

FWB AW93 Trigger shoe Variot12

Right side view (I add a thin strip of grip tape to the front surface, and to the front of the exposed frame)

FWB AW93 Trigger shoe Variot11

Showing the advantage of angled trigger finger alignment (for me anyway)

FWB AW93 Trigger shoe Variot10

Two triggers Smile for comparison

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Part bag

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Thanks for the confirmation, Now I just have to locate one.
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Post by ric1911a1 Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:27 pm

I will have to think about that trigger............

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Post by Ray Dash Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:58 pm

I have been in touch with a Ebay seller that was able to import a couple trigger shoes for the AW93 if anyone is interested. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374471883841?hash=item5730437c41:g:3MsAAOSwgCpiPfLC
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Post by -TT- Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:14 pm

That's an excellent seller, I've purchased from them multiple times.
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Post by Ray Dash Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:29 pm

My trigger came in today, this is going to spoil me for sure.  I will try it out tomorrow along with my new Horton grips and see how I do.
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Post by Caster3845 Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:37 pm

Why can't somebody do this with a Hammerli 208s or has somebody already made a trigger like this? I asked Larry (Larry's Guns) about it at Canton many years ago and he told me "It would not work because then the shooter would be pushing the trigger sideways as the trigger was pulled." My question to him then was "Then why do all the high end airguns have triggers that can be adjusted like that?" I didn't get an answer from him.
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Post by -TT- Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:11 am

The Pardini and Benelli have stock triggers that can adjust like this, but pistols like the 208 etc with pivoting solid triggers don't lend themselves to such a mod very well. In a purpose-built trigger mechanism, it's obviously possible.

I could agree or disagree with the opinion that it would lead to pushing. It all depends on the angles. Larry knew the 208 better than anyone, so I'd tend to believe him on that. In the AW93, I don't.
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Post by Froneck Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:05 am

I don't think putting the trigger face at an angle is any good. If anything it indicates the pull length is too long. Angled face will cause side pressure and increase drag. I made a trigger for my AW shown here in another topic. Is quite wide and has same radius as 1911 trigger. Only gun I would use an angled trigger face is on my Russian Free Pistol that has the trigger designed so the if the trigger has pressure in any direction even forward the gun will fire.

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Post by -TT- Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:01 am

Froneck wrote: If anything it indicates the pull length is too long.

Totally agree but "long pull length" is the AW93's middle name. If you know the magic spell to make it feel like a conventional sear (1911), I'm all ears.
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Post by Froneck Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:13 pm

The grips provided by Feinwerkbau add quite a bit to pull length. I purchase a set of Rink grips at Perry, better but didn't like the angle. I made Aluminum adapter so as to use 1911 grips. Found a guy on ebay that makes them so I got the thinnest he made without holes for attachment screws. I don't have long fingers and use standard Greider short length trigger with one of my trigger shoes on my 1911s.
 Looking at the photo the back of the AW where the grip safety is on the 1911 is the AW frame. I was rushing to complete the grip conversion before Perry so I used Brownells Aluma-Hyde to blacken the aluminum. It's wearing off, I did purchase the anodizing chemicals and book from Caswell and when I get some time black anodize the aluminum.
 You can see how far the trigger is forward for my finger. With the original grips that trigger I made will allow more rearward adjustment where as I see the pivoting trigger in the photos will add length. I'm thinking you can get grips printed to limit the amount on the rear so that pull length is better. I had a set printed for my MatchGun, sitting here someplace in a box. I'll have to get them on some day.FWB AW93 Trigger shoe Cimg1929

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Post by -TT- Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:25 pm

Oh! You mean the reach distance, from the back of the grip to the trigger face. Yes, some of the AW93 grips do increase that, and the trigger ends up waaay back on the bar. Yours is definitely in a better spot.

I thought you meant how far the trigger actually moves when pulling, and that's exactly why I feel the angled trigger face helps (I have Rink grips). The angle means I can wrap my finger, and avoid using my fingertip. Also because the boreline is so low in this gun, my finger actually slants down and left to reach the trigger, so I really need the angle especially because of the long travel it has to pull through.

Works for me, anyway.
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