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Post by L. Boscoe Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:18 pm

First topic message reminder :

Have read most of the posts on this topic, still don't have an answer to the question about bulkier
powders vs something like VV 310.
I have on hand W 231, VV 320, VV310 and a tad of Bullseye. Also have 148 gr HBWC coated bullets.
Seeing that the cartridge was developed for black powder in the old days, and reading stories about
how one should tilt the pistol up before firing, I thought it a good idea to ask the wise ones about
which of the above would be  the best for my BE shooting out of a SW52 and possibly a SW 686.

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Post by BE Mike Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:28 am

Cmysix wrote:
james r chapman wrote:I’ve never heard,or seen, a bullseye success story using Berrys plated bullets.

Just sayin


 Don't ask me where I just ran across it, But I saw a note from Berry themselves that said they wanted their wad cutters{DEWC} at 800 FPS or better
I'd have to see a machine rest group fired at 50 yards to believe that those plated Berry bullets were suitable for bullseye pistol shooting.
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Post by rbwillnj Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:57 pm

This is with Remington HBWC, but ~800 FPS is where I got the best results.    2.6 grains of 700X.    3.1 grains of W231 produced similar results.


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Post by Cmysix Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:26 pm

BE Mike wrote:
Cmysix wrote:
james r chapman wrote:I’ve never heard,or seen, a bullseye success story using Berrys plated bullets.

Just sayin


 Don't ask me where I just ran across it, But I saw a note from Berry themselves that said they wanted their wad cutters{DEWC} at 800 FPS or better
I'd have to see a machine rest group fired at 50 yards to believe that those plated Berry bullets were suitable for bullseye pistol shooting.

I can/t/won't argue with you, I jumped right out and bought 500 awhile ago and have not loaded any thing in .38 yet,   but  any better shooter's  then me, and probably means all of you, if anyone would like to experiment, I would be happy to send you some.
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Post by jgolba Tue Jan 16, 2024 4:28 pm

In the FWIW category: The February 2024 issue of Shooting Times Has an article entitled "New Powders For .38 Special Wadcutters". This article covers the more traditional faster powders as well as some newer slower powders. 148 grain HBWC bullets included Remington, Hornady, and Zero. Many loads listed along with velocity, standard deviation, and 25-yard accuracy. BYW...accuracy determined for 20 shot aggregate groups using a S&W Modrel 686 (7" barrel), mounted in a Ransom Rest. Not sure how relevant this is to Bullseye shooters, but I thought it was worth sharing.

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