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Results of Crimp - 38 Spc

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Post by lanjo Sun 21 Jan 2024, 2:29 pm

New to reloading.  Looking to optimize a 38 Spc load for a M52.  Tested several powders with increasing loads.  Settled on BE at 2.9 gr.  I have a 1:10 twist Clark aftermarket barrel in the M52 and it seemed to group the faster loads better.

Next wanted to test crimp.  Here are the results...

50 Yards - Ransom Rest
2.9 BE, 148 gr Zero WCHB, Starline brass

No crimp - 0.375 - Group size 4.5 inches
Roll crimp - 0.365 - Group size 3.5 inches
Roll crimp - 0.360 - Group size 3.0 inches
Roll crimp - 0.355 - Group size 2.0 inches
Taper crimp - 0.363 - Group size 4.0 inches

I was shocked to see such a dramatic difference just from the crimp.

The 0.355 crimp is the tightest the Lee roll crimp die will go.  I think it will reduce case life from the wear on the case mouth, but the accuracy gain is really good.

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Post by chiz1180 Sun 21 Jan 2024, 2:38 pm

Looks like you found a winner. Did you notice any difference on bullet yaw?
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Post by lanjo Sun 21 Jan 2024, 2:55 pm

All the holes were round.  I think the installing the 1:10 twist barrel put an end to the bullet tipping.

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Post by S148 Mon 22 Jan 2024, 8:53 am

Nice results. How many rounds in your group?  Thanks.

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Post by rich.tullo Mon 22 Jan 2024, 4:28 pm

Interesting. I just loaded 50 rounds with a taper crimp. I had been loading a little proud of the case mouth with a light roll crimp , makes me think about roll crimping.
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Post by lanjo Tue 23 Jan 2024, 12:18 am

These are 10 shot groups.

The taper crimp I think could have done better.  The problem was that the taper crimp die I have is not adjustable. I can't make the crimp tighter.  With the roll crimp die I can make is tighter to a point.

I really did not think crimp was such a big factor.  The no crimp rounds would not chamber easily.  So, they were a non-starter and just academic. So, you need at least some crimp, but I would not have guessed that the crimp with cut the group size in half. But clearly it does.

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Post by jwax Tue 23 Jan 2024, 2:22 pm

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Post by bruce martindale Tue 23 Jan 2024, 4:09 pm

Nice! How do you measure roll crimp?

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Post by jwax Wed 24 Jan 2024, 9:46 am

Under a low power microscope, I match my crimps to old Federal Red box wadcutters crimp.
Mine match the performance of those old rounds.
Never have got a grip on measuring crimp.
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