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Post by Multiracer on Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:27 pm

Specifically for a S&W 52-2
I did a quick search and did not turn up a consensus for factory ammo to start. I see a few recipes to load with which I will do later.
What FPS should I look for in 148G HBSWC ?

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Post by james r chapman on Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:05 pm

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Post by oldsalt444 on Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:36 pm

Factory Win and Rem load theirs to 710 fps.  Must be a good reason.  Winchester Match is excellent and the bullet  doesn't wobble producing a semi keyhole in the target like others. A bit pricy, though.  

That being said, 2.7 gr. of WST behind a swaged 148 HBWC is considered "the load".  Works great in my 52 and revolver.
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Post by Multiracer on Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:39 pm

Starline small primer brass ? Who has the correct lead bullet ?

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Post by Wobbley on Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:47 pm

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The correct lead HBWC is Remington.  Good luck finding those.  

You can get near factory accuracy using Magnus Swaged HBWC, Precision Delta HBWC or Zero swagedHBWc,  as for loads, either 2.7 or 2.8 gr of either WST or Bullseye will work.  You'll need a slight roll crimp just like the factory.

As for factory, Remington, Winchester, and Federal are gold standards.
Magtech, and Sellier & Bellot will do in a pinch.
Fiocchi shoots well but doesn't function in my 52-2.

As always, YMMV.
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Post by Multiracer on Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:10 pm

Thanks guys,
I just looked at Magnus and did not see this style in swaged.

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Post by Jon Eulette on Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:24 pm

Magnus 148gr hbwc shot 1.5" from my pistol. Excellent bullets.
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Post by oldsalt444 on Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:08 pm

Magnus 148 HBWC:
http://saas.shopsite.com/magnusbullets/store/page11.html
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Post by james r chapman on Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:16 am

Just saying @ 25 yds.
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Post by BE Mike on Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:19 am

If I understand you correctly, you are going to begin with factory loaded ammo. If that is the case, you could do worse than Zero. Check them out: http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=RZD&Product_Code=R611-A&Category_Code=ZBA-38SP
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Post by Multiracer on Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:09 am

I will start collecting the components. Thanks guys. Now about that roll crimp vs taper crimp stuff....

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Post by robert84010 on Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:31 am

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601192625/remington-match-bullets-38-caliber-360-diameter-148-grain-lead-hollow-base-wadcutter

this is the bullet that everybody seeks. You are allowed to back order them at Midway right now. I have never seen that so they must be confident they will get the bullets in soon. I got some last month, first time I've ever seen them available anywhere online.

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Post by Wobbley on Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:32 am

Good results can be had with either, but your 52 will probably prefer a slight roll for feeding purposes.  Look at factory ammo and duplicate that style and amount of crimp.  HBWC swaged bullets don't like too much crimp and I've never used a "Factory Crimp" die.  Just a slight roll as I finish seating the bullet.
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Post by JIMPGOV on Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:32 pm

USE A REDDING PROFILE CRIMP DIE. IT'S A SLIGHT TAPER AND ROLL CRIMP.  ROLL THE BRASS JUST OVER THE FRONT OF THE BULLET. THIS SEEMS TO WORK IN EVERY MODEL 52 THAT WE'VE TRIED WITH IT. ALSO 2.6 OR 2.7 WST IS JUST ABOUT UNBEATABLE. JP

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Post by jglenn21 on Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:05 pm

Totally agree on the Redding die.. WST is hard to beat in the special. HBWC or DR ammo.
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Post by Multiracer on Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:40 pm

Got it guys, Thanks again.
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Post by troystaten on Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:20 pm

From what I have heard that the Remington 148 grain 38 special bullets have been discontinued, they still list the loaded cartridges on the website but I have not seen too many sources for the loaded ammo that have it in stock.   I have used the Precision delta bullets and they seem to shoot well.

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Post by Jon Eulette on Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:22 pm

Remingtons are still being made. Friend just had a backorder of 6000 delivered.
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Post by troystaten on Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:24 pm

Nice to hear Jon, I am glad another good product is still available.  Have a nice weekend.

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Post by Multiracer on Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:35 pm

Jon Eulette wrote:Remingtons are still being made. Friend just had a backorder of 6000 delivered.
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From where were they backordered ?

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Post by Jon Eulette on Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:37 pm

Multiracer wrote:
Jon Eulette wrote:Remingtons are still being made. Friend just had a backorder of 6000 delivered.
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From where were they backordered ?
Not sure.
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Post by messenger on Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:57 pm

I just back ordered 2000 from Midway.

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Re: 38 special ammunition

Post by mikemyers on Sun Sep 03, 2017 4:01 pm

Recommended by Terry at Magnus Bullets:

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Post by james r chapman on Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:53 pm

those will make you very happy..
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Post by oldsalt444 on Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:29 pm

+1 on Magnus Bullets.  Plus, Bullseye-L forum members get a 15% discount.
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