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Post by Jwhelan939 on Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:23 pm

Where is everyone finding their scoring overlays? I'm looking for 3 sets. Champions choice was the only place I saw them and they want 19$ in shipping. Hoping someone had a better lead. Ty.

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Post by lablover on Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:40 pm

Jwhelan939 wrote:Where is everyone finding their scoring overlays? I'm looking for 3 sets. Champions choice was the only place I saw them and they want 19$ in shipping. Hoping someone had a better lead. Ty.
If you can’t find one let me know.  I may have a spare laying around

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Post by Asa Yam on Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:21 pm

Sources:

Champion's Choice:  http://www.champchoice.com/store/Main.aspx?p=ItemDetailOptions&item=SO10
Bullseye Gear:  https://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyegear/outdoor-pistol-scoring-overlay.html
Larry's Guns:  https://www.larrysguns.com/Products/Scoring-overlay__SCORINGOVER.aspx
Creedmoor Sports:  https://www.creedmoorsports.com/product/pistol-scoring-overlay/scoring-devices

Not sure about shipping for most of these firms, Creedmoor states "Free shipping if ordered alone."  I like the scoring ring lines on the "other" overlays though.

Hope this helps.

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Post by 8at4 on Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:34 pm

If you call Champion's Choice the lady that takes your order can give you cheaper shipping. I do that when I order lenses for my shooting frames.

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Post by Jwhelan939 on Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:27 am

Asa Yam wrote:Sources:

Champion's Choice:  http://www.champchoice.com/store/Main.aspx?p=ItemDetailOptions&item=SO10
Bullseye Gear:  https://www.bullseyegear.com/bullseyegear/outdoor-pistol-scoring-overlay.html
Larry's Guns:  https://www.larrysguns.com/Products/Scoring-overlay__SCORINGOVER.aspx
Creedmoor Sports:  https://www.creedmoorsports.com/product/pistol-scoring-overlay/scoring-devices

Not sure about shipping for most of these firms, Creedmoor states "Free shipping if ordered alone."  I like the scoring ring lines on the "other" overlays though.

Hope this helps.

Thank you. Unfortunately Cc is were shipping was 5x the price of the overlay. Bullseye gear is out of stock. Creedmore isn't the bullseye style. And I'm not sure if Larry's is open since his passing? Never thought it would be so hard to find. Thank you for the response!

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Post by Jwhelan939 on Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:28 am

8at4 wrote:If you call Champion's Choice the lady that takes your order can give you cheaper shipping. I do that when I order lenses for my shooting frames.

Scott

I'll give it a try. Thanks!

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Post by xringdave on Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:34 am

Have three. PM me your address. I will mail them to you.
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Post by TonyH on Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:43 am

Jwhelan939 wrote:Where is everyone finding their scoring overlays? I'm looking for 3 sets. Champions choice was the only place I saw them and they want 19$ in shipping. Hoping someone had a better lead. Ty.

If you want to print your own transparencies, here are some that may work (maybe admin can make sticky):
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Post by TonyH on Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:47 am

and a couple more:
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Post by jglenn21 on Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:15 am

I've used the ones Tony has listed. Simply print them out or copy them on clear transparency sheets. You can use double print to darken them
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Post by Jwhelan939 on Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:24 am

TonyH wrote:and a couple more:

Great resource! Thank you!

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Post by TonyH on Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:52 am

jglenn21 wrote:I've used the ones Tony has listed. Simply print them out or copy them on clear transparency sheets. You can use double print to darken them

The scoring overlay I found on the internet someplace a while back and just saved it, so can't speak to it's accuracy. The other target overlays I made use the specifications on ring diameters from the NRA rulebooks. You should be able to print them on transparencies and use as is. I will try and make the scoring overlay again with an inner circle on the caliber gauges so one can center them better (when I have some time) and repost.
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Post by whitez06 on Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:59 am

This topic came up before. Creedmore was criticized and when i ask for a comparison to what was/is perceived to be unacceptable, nothing appeared.
If your scoring someone who's shooting 185 JHP the print on target is much smaller the any of the other wadcutters. With Creedmore you have an inner circle that you can lay over the entry hole, and an outer ring that defines a 45 shot ring.
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Post by TonyH on Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:09 am

whitez06 wrote:This topic came up before. Creedmore was criticized and when i ask for a comparison to what was/is perceived to be unacceptable, nothing appeared.
If your scoring someone who's shooting 185 JHP the print on target is much smaller the any of the other wadcutters. With Creedmore you have an inner circle that you can lay over the entry hole, and an outer ring that defines a 45 shot ring.
My opinion only

The Creedmoor ones I have were slightly undersized, so I don't use them. The Champions Choice ones I have are dimensioned correctly and have the the double circles as you state above and help center the overlay. I saw some from Champions Choice recently that were double printed and the circles overlapped each other and were off centered.....whichever you have, make sure they are the correct diameter and accurate. Best as I can tell the one I posted, the dimension is correct, albeit it doesn't have the inner circle.
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Post by jglenn21 on Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:20 am

I have compared the PDF 25 B8 overlay to a target and it was perfect.
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Post by -TT- on Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:09 am

Nice! When printing the pdf, be sure you select "Actual size" and not "Fit to page" or other scaling. Some printer drivers can sneak in and change these values too, for stuff like margins, A4 vs 8.5x11 paper, etc.

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Post by Slodad on Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:57 pm

Will these work?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/372097271001

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Post by Jwhelan939 on Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:33 am

Thanks all. Xringdave had a spare set and sent them along. Getting new shooters set up is getting harder and harder. Box, scope mount, overlays... Not easy to find this stuff.

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Post by chopper on Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:25 am

jglenn21 wrote:I've used the ones Tony has listed. Simply print them out or copy them on clear transparency sheets. You can use double print to darken them
  Jim, are you printing from another clear overlay or piece of paper, and where do you get the clear plastic to print on? Does the ink etch into the clear plastic or do you have to use a laser printer or something like that. Thanks.
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Post by jglenn21 on Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:54 am

Inkjet will work but it will wear off after a while.. clear transparent can be found on amazon or places like office depot
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Post by jglenn21 on Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:56 am

I made myself a master that incorporated  both the small  overlay as well as the 8 ring overlay.. the master is on a transparent sheet


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Post by chopper on Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:12 pm

Thank you much Jim, that opened up some new ideas for me.
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Post by jimsteele on Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:43 am

A shooting friend let me use his red overlay. I believe it's easier to use when shots are in the black.

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Post by TonyH on Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:18 am

TonyH wrote:
jglenn21 wrote:I've used the ones Tony has listed. Simply print them out or copy them on clear transparency sheets. You can use double print to darken them

The scoring overlay I found on the internet someplace a while back and just saved it, so can't speak to it's accuracy. The other target overlays I made use the specifications on ring diameters from the NRA rulebooks. You should be able to print them on transparencies and use as is. I will try and make the scoring overlay again with an inner circle on the caliber gauges so one can center them better (when I have some time) and repost.
Here are the overlays (vector drawing) in both red and black with the inner circles. The NRA specs for gauges are printed on the sheet and the dimensions used in creating the attached are smack in the middle of the specifications. If I can enhance those in some fashion let me know. Enjoy!
P.S. Print actual size on transparencies.
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Post by Jwhelan939 on Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:21 am

Thank you so much! That's awesome!

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