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Lead Loads for GT45?

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Post by Oleg G 4/16/2021, 10:00 am

Folks,

Looking to partake in your wisdom: does anyone have good experience with lead bullets in Pardini GT45?
I have spoken to Pardini USA and their recommendation is - JHP.
I have searched this forum for good loads for GT45 and everyone is recommending JHP.
I don't want to swim against the current but I have no JHP bullets! I do have some JHP rounds (ASYM ammo that I bought last year) and it should take me through this year's matches but that leaves precious little for training.
Therefore, I am asking for any good experience with lead loads in this pistol.
I will also post in the trading subform to see if anyone can help me and trade their JHP for my Lead Hollow Point bullets.

Best Regards,
Oleg.
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Post by Wobbley 4/16/2021, 11:04 am

What is the rifling form?  Regular land and groove or polygonal?
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Post by Oleg G 4/16/2021, 11:31 am

Since I don't really know how to tell one from the other, here is the picture of my old barrel, which is now usable only as a case gauge (there is a story behind it that is too painful to mention).

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Post by fc60 4/16/2021, 12:10 pm

Greetings,

I had a GT45 for a while.

It did not like bullets with sharp shoulders.

Consider a bullet with a "truncated" nose. i.e. H&G 292

H&G 292

Lee and RCBS may have similar designs.

Oh yes, the barrel on my GT45 was eight groove and measured 0.450".

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Post by Oleg G 4/16/2021, 12:13 pm

Thanks, Dave. And, of course, I have plenty of Lead Hollow Point Semi-Wadcutter (sharp shoulders) bullets! Figures... Smile

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Post by fc60 4/16/2021, 2:52 pm

Greetings Oleg,

Give the HPSWC a try.

You may have to vary the seating depth for best functioning.

What I think happens is that the ejected case rim catches on the shoulder of the cartridge below causing a "hiccup" and malfunction.

Surprisingly, Remington factory FMJWC ammo fed well in my pistol.

A very nice pistol, enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave
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Post by PhotoEscape 4/16/2021, 6:55 pm

In limited testing I've done with GT45, I had no issues shooting coated SWC, using 200gr #68 and 185gr #130.  For that matter latter shot quite well using CCI350 & WLP primers and 3.3gr of N310 under the bullet. OAL 1.150".  No functional issues at all.  Testing was limited to 25Y indoor.

#292 is 230gr conical bullet - 292.jpg (600×450) (hensleygibbs.com)
#130 is 185gr and has elements of both, conical part like #292 and resemblance of SWC.  However there is no distinct shoulder as one in SWC.  Instead cone gently rounds up, -  130_6.jpg (1200×900) (hensleygibbs.com)

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Post by rich.tullo 4/16/2021, 7:59 pm

I would find a coated TC or these they are similar in profile to the Nosler just without the hollow point. https://www.xtremebullets.com/45-200-FP-p/xc45-200fp-b0500.htm
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Post by Oleg G 4/16/2021, 8:59 pm

Rich,

Any reason for pointing me to the 200 Gr extreme bullets, instead of 185 Gr? And thanks for this. I will try extreme bullets.

Alex,
Looking at the HensleyGibbs website, I only see the molds. Does this mean that I need to learn to cast my own bullets? Not in the plans right now! Smile

Dave, would any of your Brazos bullets fill my need?
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Post by PhotoEscape 4/16/2021, 9:28 pm

Oleg,

Links to H&G meant to show profile of bullets.  I do not know who manufactures #130 nowadays. 

Brazos has 45 RNFP that worth trying - 45 200gr Round Nose/Flat Point/Bevel Base/Grooves (517ct, $0 (brazosprecision.com).  However I would advice against using X-Treme plated RNFP or FP bullets due to being not accurate, especially at 50Y.

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Post by rich.tullo 4/17/2021, 6:16 am

Oleg G wrote:Rich,

Any reason for pointing me to the 200 Gr extreme bullets, instead of 185 Gr? And thanks for this. I will try extreme bullets.

Alex,
Looking at the HensleyGibbs website, I only see the molds. Does this mean that I need to learn to cast my own bullets? Not in the plans right now! Smile

Dave, would any of your Brazos bullets fill my need?

I used the Penn Bullets 200gn over 3.6 BE and it cycled my guns and was accurate. Xtremes are supposed to be better than Berry's.
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Post by Dr.Don 4/17/2021, 8:15 am

Check with Magnus.  I think their #801 is essentially the old #130 profile or very close.
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Post by rich.tullo 4/20/2021, 10:04 pm

Dr.Don wrote:Check with Magnus.  I think their #801 is essentially the old #130 profile or very close.
Magnus 801 is actually a Special Mold they developed to mimic the profile of the Federal Match Jacketed Bullet.
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