45 ACP Revolver
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45 ACP Revolver
Wanting to eventually shoot a revolver across the course for fun. Most likely with red dots. Can I get some feedback on the comparison between a 25-2 and an early 625? Seems like a 625-4 would be my best bet, as it came drilled and tapped, but before MIM parts appeared. Of course, I suppose I could have a Smith drill and tap a 25-2 as well. So which should I go with? Any particular years to look for?
Dave
Dave
Dcforman- Posts : 919
Join date : 2017-11-18
Age : 43
Location : Ohio
Re: 45 ACP Revolver
Greetings,
There is an advantage to the stainless 625. It is easy to clean. I strip mine down and clean the parts in an UltraSonic bath.
It may take up to 2-3 hours to fully remove the fouling. Areas such as the front of the cylinder and the small crevice between the rear of the barrel and the top strap. The UltraSonic also does a good job of breaking down any Lead fouling in the forcing cone.
Yes, the 625-4 would be my choice. I believe the -4 models still had broach cut rifling. A friend has a 625-6 and it has the EDM rifling. Tests in the Random Rest tend to favor the -4 with cut rifling.
Also, the 625 models tend to have 0.453" cylinder throats and 0.4515" groove diameter barrels (cut rifled only). The 25-2 cylinder throats can be all over from 0.453" to 0.456"+.
My 625-4 easily holds the ten ring at 50 yards with twelve shot groups. I used the H&G 68, H&G S242, and H&G 78. With Remington commercial from the '60's inside the ten ring as well at 50 yards.
Cheers,
Dave
There is an advantage to the stainless 625. It is easy to clean. I strip mine down and clean the parts in an UltraSonic bath.
It may take up to 2-3 hours to fully remove the fouling. Areas such as the front of the cylinder and the small crevice between the rear of the barrel and the top strap. The UltraSonic also does a good job of breaking down any Lead fouling in the forcing cone.
Yes, the 625-4 would be my choice. I believe the -4 models still had broach cut rifling. A friend has a 625-6 and it has the EDM rifling. Tests in the Random Rest tend to favor the -4 with cut rifling.
Also, the 625 models tend to have 0.453" cylinder throats and 0.4515" groove diameter barrels (cut rifled only). The 25-2 cylinder throats can be all over from 0.453" to 0.456"+.
My 625-4 easily holds the ten ring at 50 yards with twelve shot groups. I used the H&G 68, H&G S242, and H&G 78. With Remington commercial from the '60's inside the ten ring as well at 50 yards.
Cheers,
Dave
fc60- Posts : 1430
Join date : 2011-06-11
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Re: 45 ACP Revolver
I have a 25-2 that several people tried to make Bullseye worthy. None succeeded….. probably due to the oversized throats. I also have a Model of 1988 625-2 that does pretty well.
orpheoet- Posts : 1054
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Re: 45 ACP Revolver
Yeah, go with the 625. My 25-2 wouldn’t group with the swc 1911 rounds. Hardball was “ok”...
kjanracing- Posts : 410
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Re: 45 ACP Revolver
I've got a 25-2 a 625-2 and a 625-6. love them all but shoot the 625-2 the most. The stainless 625's are easier to clean.
Bmitch996- Posts : 153
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Location : South Carolina, Lake George NY, CA
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Re: 45 ACP Revolver
If you are truly after the most accurate 45 revolver made by S&W then go to a 460XVR. If you want beautiful then go with a 25-2 (mine will hold 10 ring at 50yds). I am not sure about ss being easier to clean. But those that have both say they are.
LenV- Posts : 4739
Join date : 2014-01-24
Age : 74
Location : Oregon
Re: 45 ACP Revolver
This is a very early 1955 Model. Pre 25-2.
Grip by Fung. Trigger by me.
Target is offhand with 200gr Hornady JSWC
Grip by Fung. Trigger by me.
Target is offhand with 200gr Hornady JSWC
Jack H- Posts : 2688
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 75
Location : Oregon
JM 625 ?
I have a 4" JM 625 that shoots fairly well. Sig Romeo 5 on it. -- 4.0g BE / lead 180g FBSWCs from a padded rest: 6 shots@50 yards-2-5/8" C-C,-using all 6 chambers (only did the one group). --- 25yards: 1st 6 shot group, loose but centered, all would be Xs-barely. -- 2nd 25 yard 6 shot group (Brazos 180g FBSWCs this time)=1 hole that would almost, not quite, fit inside the X-ring.
I like the revolver. One person said he got terrible accuracy from one of these. - maybe I got lucky.
My rube chamber throat test: All 6 chambers the same: a .451 jacketed bullet would pass thru w/ no, or very slight, pressure. - -- A .452" lead SWC would not pass thru w/o real pressure and a fair amount of tapping with a dowel.
The EDM? rifling seems to clean fairly easily-especially using using "Big 45 frontier metal cleaner" wrapped around a brass brush.
2¢ - YMMV - , Russ
I like the revolver. One person said he got terrible accuracy from one of these. - maybe I got lucky.
My rube chamber throat test: All 6 chambers the same: a .451 jacketed bullet would pass thru w/ no, or very slight, pressure. - -- A .452" lead SWC would not pass thru w/o real pressure and a fair amount of tapping with a dowel.
The EDM? rifling seems to clean fairly easily-especially using using "Big 45 frontier metal cleaner" wrapped around a brass brush.
2¢ - YMMV - , Russ
Russ OR- Posts : 262
Join date : 2011-06-10
Location : Oregon City, OR
Re: 45 ACP Revolver
What did you load Dave?
Babe Magnan used heavy loads, l used to have a link to an article on him.
Babe Magnan used heavy loads, l used to have a link to an article on him.
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