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Anyone get a new Python?

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Post by zanemoseley 10/31/2021, 8:10 pm

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I'm curious if anyone has ponied up the cash for a new Python yet to test out. The prices are dropping to where you can almost get one for MSRP. I thought of getting one polished by Patriot Polishing as a bit of a show piece but would shoot it occasionally.

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Post by PhotoEscape 11/25/2021, 9:17 pm

zanemoseley wrote:Well I won one off GB for $10 over MSRP, much better that before when they were going for hundreds over. Will be going straight to Mike at Hefron Precision, been emailing him and he's seeing real good results from 148hbwc in the new Pythons and if you're not worried about magnum primers it lets him go even lighter on the pull, down to 2.25#SA.

Also thinking of getting it polished, I love a shiny Python. Won't make keeping clean as much fun but will make for some sweet gun safe bling.
What is turn around time?

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Post by zanemoseley 11/25/2021, 9:45 pm

He's gonna get mine through the week of Dec 19th.

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Post by PhotoEscape 11/25/2021, 9:50 pm

Please post results and delivery information.  If he indeed can deliver on timely manner and results as promised, I'd be interested to have same done on both of mine.

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Post by zanemoseley 11/25/2021, 9:55 pm

He doesn't polish so that will be a separate trip if I decide to get it done.

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Post by zanemoseley 11/27/2021, 12:58 pm

AP, so he's got me down for the week of Dec 19th, so under a month lead to get a date, he said 2-4 week turnaround once he has in hand.

Spoke with him today on the phone to give a deposit, thought it was gonna be a 5 minute call, 50 minutes later I knew a lot more about him and the pistols. He's very impressed with the production of these new pistols especially after an action job. The new MIM parts are hardened all the way through, apparently Pratt and Whitney developed the process and patented it. They only make parts on contract, they do not sell the technology to make your own, so the MIM Python parts are made by P&W. If it weren't for the crazy drop tests they have to pass they could have likely done a much better SA pull from the factory.

Will post more results when it's done.

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Post by mikemyers 11/27/2021, 8:50 pm

zanemoseley wrote:Been doing some reading about the new pythons. The first batch so to speak came with a lighter mainspring which had a nicer SA pull but resulted in complaints regarding light strikes and some other issues, they've since gone to a heavier spring which is part of the issue with the crappy SA pull but fixed the strike issues. They also put a very conservative sear geometry on these pistols to pass CA drop tests, people report the hammer cams backward very noticeably before releasing so damn near almost like half a DA pull. There were also issues with the side plates getting a bit loose which would have them jam up, easy fix with loctite.

Sounds like Mike from Hefron Precision has the best action job going. If I bought one it would go straight there as well as possibly a professional polish job. Everything else sounds pretty on point with them but you can get $2+ in one in a hurry if you tune them. Here's some info from Mike off another board.


When I execute our PRECISION ACTION & TRIGGER TUNING© on any revolver, we have fixtures to keep the honing and polishing square. The single-action sear does require a change of geometry to acquire a crisp 3lb pull. A jig is used to arrive at the starting point, but the finishing touches are more or less done by feel. While these revolvers are certainly more simple than the old ones, they still are not "Ruger-Easy" or "Smith & Wesson-Easy". They still offer a certain set of complexities due to the V mainspring, the rebound lever, and the "Bank Vault Lockup". Incorrect sear profiling will result in the revolver being out of time.

Our tuned NEW Pythons have a crisp SA pull of 2.75-3.25 lbs, a slick-cycle 8.75-9.0 lbs DA pull, and a very quick trigger return. Rapid DA firing is much easier once the tuning is complete. During cocking the action or during DA firing OR during the trigger return cycle you will not encounter a single "rough spot". The revolver's function in its entirety is slippery-smooth. Even though Colt does polish key parts within the action, our tuning reduces the mechanism's overall friction by a significant extent.

We did not arrive at this point by accident. When the NEW Python was introduced we acquired one and went to work creating a specific set of tuning techniques for it. I personally tune the revolvers. I have tuned and repaired Colt Double-Action revolvers for over 30 years. I will be honest here, when it comes to that work I have a specific way that I want it done. I am a control freak/micro-manager so it's best if I do it. My guys do the machine-work. I stay at the bench. No gun will leave here until it's something I would own myself. That's the best response I can provide.

I have developed a specific method of profiling the mainspring. I built tooling to do so. When a Python is tuned here, it will have the trigger pulls I mentioned AND it will smack the crap out of a magnum primer! Lightening springs is NOT an option as I see it. We are approaching 200 tuned NEW Pythons. I am happy to say that we have the best NEW Python Action and Trigger Tuning on the market.
My brother has his new as-yet unfired Python 4".  If he wants to send it to Mike, is it still correct that my brother works things out with Mike ahead of time, then at the appropriate time he boxes up his Python and goes to a Federal Express office, and ships it as a "firearm, overnight shipping" for around $100.  Presumably after it is repaired, they would send it directly back to him, or does it go to an FFL dealer, where he would go to pick it up?  

I tried to explain all this to my brother earlier today, but I haven't done this in years, and maybe things have changed.

As a side question, are there any issues my brother should check out before he sends the gun to Mike?  He has never fired the gun, and I've read about issues that Colt repaired under warranty.  Any things in particular my brother should check out?
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Post by zanemoseley 11/27/2021, 9:29 pm

Just contact Mike. Yes Colt will likely not warranty the pistol afterwards but Mike will go through it thoroughly. Lots of gunsmiths will just recommend sending 2-3 day Fedex with adult signature required declared as machined parts, their overnight policy is more of a company policy versus law, some would call it a cash grab.

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