Bullseye-L Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Anyone get a new Python?

+14
Wes Lorenz
71firebird400
Beecherkid
shanneba
mikemyers
AZ10X
inthebeech
RoyDean
john bickar
kjanracing
Allgoodhits
Wobbley
PhotoEscape
zanemoseley
18 posters

Page 3 of 3 Previous  1, 2, 3

Go down

Anyone get a new Python? - Page 3 Empty Anyone get a new Python?

Post by zanemoseley 10/31/2021, 8:10 pm

First topic message reminder :

I'm curious if anyone has ponied up the cash for a new Python yet to test out. The prices are dropping to where you can almost get one for MSRP. I thought of getting one polished by Patriot Polishing as a bit of a show piece but would shoot it occasionally.

zanemoseley

Posts : 2499
Join date : 2015-07-11
Location : Cookeville, TN

Back to top Go down


Anyone get a new Python? - Page 3 Empty Re: Anyone get a new Python?

Post by RevolverGuy38 2/20/2022, 7:52 am

This is Mike Heffron of Heffron Precision©.  A customer just put me in touch with this forum so I joined.  Because this thread concerns the New Python, I thought I'd throw a few bits out there.  Regarding accuracy, I have tested several in my RR.  I have found hbwc loads (when you find the ideal one) can group close to a half-inch at 25 yards.  I have also found that the new Python barrels are excellent, made using the same broached rifling as the old Pythons.  The one thing they don't do is lapping.  Do any of you remember the "Silver Ball" they used to push through the Python barrel?  Some say it's fact, some say it's an urban legend.  In the late 1980s I worked for a retired Colt employee who worked on the revolver line.  His last several years were spent putting Pythons together.  He assured me that the "lapping ball" was not legend, it was a fact.  He even supplied me with the "recipe".  He was a rather cranky old fart, a German immigrant (he came here after the war) that had seen a great deal in his lifetime.  His brother lived in Iowa after he retired from Colt, so my employer followed suit after his own retirement.  We have started offering the "Magic Ball" bore lap.  It certainly does help with leading and fowling plus LONG range grouping does tighten up a little.  When I say long-range, I'm talking 75-100 yards.  

The old Pythons were highly accurate revolvers and the New Pythons are a little better yet.  The chamber-to-chamber consistency in both size and spacing is unrivaled in my experience.  Regarding trigger pull, we test with weights as opposed to spring load or digital gauges.  When I say "It has a 2.5 # trigger pull", I want that determined by the laws of gravity and mass, not by spring-temper.  We offer three different trigger/action tuning packages for the New Python.  We also tune and repair 'Smiths and 'Dans.  We currently offer a dedicated Distinguished Revolver tune for the New Python, with one on the way for S&W K and L frame revolvers.  Hundreds of revolvers go through here each year.  Since we began tuning New Pythons, we have crossed the 700 point and we're approaching 800 New Pythons tuned as this is written.  Unfortunately, for the connoisseur, virtually all domestic double-action revolvers need some tuning out of the box.  The good news is that the materials and specs within these revolvers are the best ever.  Once a skilled "human touch" has been applied, they're very difficult to equal, let alone surpass.

Thank you for welcoming me to your forum.  I'm looking forward to the learning and the friendships provided by such internet neighborhoods.  You can read more about the New Python and other firearms by visiting our website.

RevolverGuy38

Posts : 1
Join date : 2022-02-20

troystaten, chopper, toddcfii and K7ZS like this post

Back to top Go down

Anyone get a new Python? - Page 3 Empty Re: Anyone get a new Python?

Post by K7ZS 2/22/2022, 9:19 pm

Welcome to the forum Mike! 

I am excited to get my Python back from Heffron (almost shipped today: 02/02/2022 but the 23rd will do haha!)

I'll post my impressions after Mike's work, but I am sure they will be good.  The pistol is a real treat to shoot, and with 357 it feels like 38's. The extra weight pays off when shooting full load Magnums.  But, like others the SA was a bit disappointing @ 5.5#  I could easily have lived with it but I snagged a good old Smith 28-2 for a bargain price, and WOW, it's SA trigger was SO much better than the stock 'CA DROP' Colt that I had to send it to Mike.  We're lucky to have him focusing on revolvers! 

I am pleased to have paid MSRP for my 6" last spring, and with prices returning to that (or soon maybe street prices below MSRP???) it's a no brainer (buy one, shoot it, then send to Mike and see what a difference a good 'smith can make!)

-Kevin

K7ZS

Posts : 20
Join date : 2021-09-12
Location : NW Oregon

Back to top Go down

Anyone get a new Python? - Page 3 Empty Re: Anyone get a new Python?

Post by Steve B 2/23/2022, 1:58 pm

Hi Mike.
I've been looking at your website recently and have a couple questions some of our members may be interested in.  In regards to your precision accuracy tuning.  It sounds like you indicate bore centerline and recut crowns and forcing cones?  What style of forcing cone are you cutting?  5 deg, 11 deg or Taylor Throat?  If I'm shooting a .358" dia lead bullet are you able to recut the cylinder throats to .3590-.3595"?  Thank you.

Steve B

Posts : 524
Join date : 2011-06-16
Location : Elkhart, IN

Back to top Go down

Anyone get a new Python? - Page 3 Empty Re: Anyone get a new Python?

Post by zanemoseley 4/24/2022, 7:46 pm

Just a little update. Trigger is amazing but be prepared to use Federal primers, maybe Winchester. Seems 100% with Federal in DA, CCI will give you issues in DA. Glad I've got a tricked out Python finally, not quite the mystique of the old ones but built to the hilt wirh quality and the trigger is butter.

zanemoseley

Posts : 2499
Join date : 2015-07-11
Location : Cookeville, TN

Back to top Go down

Anyone get a new Python? - Page 3 Empty Re: Anyone get a new Python?

Post by adminbot1911 4/24/2022, 8:22 pm

zanemoseley wrote:So is an action job like this legal for distinguished? No new parts, just tuning factory parts. Would make a way better revolver for the task than my 14-4.

"Except for stocks and the honing of the sear or sear notch to make a more crisp trigger, and maintain a 2 1/2 lb. minimum trigger pull, no external or internal modification may be made to the revolver as manufactured and sold by the factory of origin. No parts may be removed from the revolver, either externally or internally, nor may any part be added, with the exception of milling the cylinder to accommodate moon clips."

Is there more to an action job than honing the sear and sear notch?  Possibly.  

Would anyone file a protest had they shot next to you on the line?  Probably not, if anything they should ask you who did your work.  

Would a challenge or protest even be successful?  Even if you had post-race-tech NASCAR quality officials, highly unlikely.  

I've always found this part of the rule book to be unnecessarily specific and exclusionary, which is sad considering the attendance at most DR matches. You're already severely limited on the type of ammunition used (with no way of enforcing bullet weight), we should be opening the options for revolver competitors, not limiting them.
adminbot1911
adminbot1911

Posts : 346
Join date : 2019-05-17

Back to top Go down

Anyone get a new Python? - Page 3 Empty Re: Anyone get a new Python?

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 3 of 3 Previous  1, 2, 3

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum