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Post by Russ OR 11/17/2015, 6:51 pm

Improving Range Officer Trigger pull for dummies (& non-pistolsmiths)-: K.I.S.S. -
RO ILS mainsprings are extra stout (30#s) & might not take to a lot of sear spring tweaking. - So:
Save time, hassle, & $s - - get a Wolff 24# reduced power ILS mainspring (the lightest of the 3)-install it (easy with the SA ILS housing take down pin) - put a touch of Neco Molyslide on the sear/hammer hooks.
The 4-5 ROs I know of that've done this vary from 3½# to 4# trigger pull weight with no other modifications - and have zero function/ignition problems.
Spring #s sound odd?-Trust Wolff.

Try it- I think you'll like it. if you don't - it was a cheap & easy. -- Russ OR

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Post by Tim:H11 11/17/2015, 8:30 pm

Thanks! By any chance have you got any experience or opinion on the four leg sear leaf spring vs the three leg sear leaf spring?
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Post by Tim:H11 11/17/2015, 8:46 pm

Also I see midway sells a wolf reduced power mainspring kit. 19, 20 and 21 pounds. You mentioned 23 pounds, would 21 be too light?
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Post by STEVE SAMELAK 11/17/2015, 9:49 pm

Tim:H11 wrote:Also I see midway sells a wolf reduced power mainspring kit. 19, 20 and 21 pounds. You mentioned 23 pounds, would 21 be too light?

I'd double check to see if those weights are for the ILS mainspring housing or standard
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Post by Jon Eulette 11/17/2015, 10:12 pm

Stay away from 4 leaf. Won't help. Use Colt style 3 leaf (has a long cutout).
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Post by Tim:H11 11/17/2015, 10:15 pm

Midway doesn't say if the springs would fit in in ILS housing or not.... Does it matter?
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Post by Fire Escape 11/17/2015, 10:26 pm

Tim:H11 wrote:Midway doesn't say if the springs would fit in in ILS housing or not.... Does it matter?

ILS springs are different from 'normal' mainsprings. Some take the more commonly available 'normal' springs and cut them down. Others of us swap out the ILS for a 'normal' mainspring housing and use the regular springs. It isn't necessary to change the housing now that there is a choice of springs to fit ILS guns but it made me feel less 'controlled'.

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Post by Tim:H11 11/17/2015, 10:39 pm

Is the cut out in the sear spring for the hammer strut?
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Post by Jon Eulette 11/17/2015, 10:45 pm

No it's off to the side. Have always had good results keeping weight with them.
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Post by jglenn21 11/17/2015, 10:51 pm

+1 on the colt leaf springs..
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Post by ChipEck 11/17/2015, 11:14 pm

Jon knows what he is talking about.  I always pay attention to Jon's posts.

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Post by Russ OR 11/17/2015, 11:48 pm

Don't confuse the SA ILS mainsprings & numbers with standard mainsprings & numbers - the ILS numbers are higher. Go to the Wolff website-Find the section for Springfield Armory pistols-they have a well noted section for springs for the SA ILS housings. -  Maybe get 3 springs & share?-we did. -  - Search for Wolff gunsprings  -- - Russ

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Post by kc.crawford.7 11/18/2015, 5:31 am

+1 on Jon's reply as well.  I only use Colt sear springs in my builds.  The Clark 4 leaf spring "fixes" a problem that really doesn't exist.
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Post by Tim:H11 11/18/2015, 8:12 am

I'm just gonna order a new mainspring housing and use standard springs... Less complicated. BUT - can I use the pins from the ILS housing in the standard housing? I believe the new housing is just the housing. No pins.
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Post by KevinB 11/18/2015, 8:22 am

Yes the pins are the same but you need a new standard mainspring cap and pin retainer. Below is a copy and paste of my order from Midway.

ription Price Quantity Total
RO trigger work for dummies -  583572 Springfield Armory Mainspring Housing Flat 1911 Government, Commander Checkered 20 LPI Blue
Product #: 583572
$26.99 1 $26.99
RO trigger work for dummies -  835662 Wilson Combat Factory Plus Mainspring Housing Pin Retainer 1911 Government, Commander Steel Blue
Product #: 835662
$2.99 1 $2.99
RO trigger work for dummies -  298985 Wilson Combat Factory Plus Mainspring Cap 1911 Blue
Product #: 298985
$2.99 1 $2.99
RO trigger work for dummies -  850111 Wolff Mainspring 1911 Government, Commander 21 lb
Product #: 486705

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Post by KevinB 11/18/2015, 8:25 am

You also need the mainspring cap pin since the ILS does not use one.

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Post by Tim:H11 11/18/2015, 8:59 am

What about this?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/148263/springfield-armory-complete-pin-set-1911-parkerized
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Post by Fire Escape 11/18/2015, 9:11 am

Tim:H11 wrote:What about this?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/148263/springfield-armory-complete-pin-set-1911-parkerized

I believe that set will give you exactly what you already have, it sounds like a replacement set of OEM parts. Brownell's lists a set of the 'normal' Mainspring housing pins as I recall, seems like it was $10 or so when I swapped mine out a few years back.

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Post by jglenn21 11/18/2015, 12:08 pm

Brownells also now sells a whole pin kit for the 1911 under their name for $10.

used a couple of the sets without issue
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