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Post by hengehold Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:58 pm

First topic message reminder :

In your opinion, is there a real benefit to installing a recoil spring guide rod on a 1911? What are the benefits you experienced? Reliability, accuracy, something else?

Thanks,

-Shooting new guy

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Post by willnewton Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:14 am

@james-  Your dimensions are spot on.  I checked the actual angle of the hole and it is 60º as you specified. 

Have you seen the CAD 1911 drawing document -- M1911-A1_REDUX.pdf ?  That file has been my go to for pulling dimensions.  You can find it easily via Google search.

Nice job on the CAD drawing.  You inspired me a bit this morning to do some drawing myself, but I do more 3Dmodeling than blueprint style. This is the EGW FLGR. 3D just gives you such a good visual, but 2D is most readable for dimensioning, so why not have both? Laughing

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Post by james r chapman Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:15 am

Lol, that's nice!
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Post by JNW1 Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:45 pm

What kind of recoil spring guides do bullseye gunsmiths put in their builds?  Do they mostly use a Short GI recoil spring guide rod?  I have a Dan Wesson with a very tight bushing and a flgr and I need to turn the bushing with a wrench in full lock up to get it out.  Should I put a GI guide rod in?
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Post by james r chapman Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:23 am

My Clark Custom uses the short GI recoil guide rod.
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Post by paulj Sun May 21, 2023 1:30 pm

willnewton wrote:Guide rod for 1911s - Page 2 Flgr10
I'd like to be able to use a full length guide rod in this manner with my Springfield RO, but the spring plug will not pass out through the rear.  The last 1/16" of the channel the plug slides in has a reduced diameter that prevents the plug from being removed like is shown in the photos.  Has anyone else run into this?

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Post by DA/SA Sun May 21, 2023 1:39 pm

That's an RO thing. The slide can be set up and bored through to accommodate what you want to do.

Any gunsmith that is actually a gunsmith should be able to do that.
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Post by Allgoodhits Sun May 21, 2023 4:31 pm

Jon Eulette wrote:No benefit to accuracy. If you use one make sure it is a 2 pc rod. 1 pc rod will damage bushing/barrel lockup (gall) because you have to twist bushing while in full battery.
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Not all. Some have a pin hole to capture the compressed spring. Others, like Dawson have a rocker which captures the spring. Once the spring is captured, remove the FLGR with captured spring. Then you can ease the slide back, or pull the barrel forward, so that bushing is not turned, when barrel is in full forward locked position.
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Post by Jon Eulette Sun May 21, 2023 5:06 pm

Allgoodhits wrote:
Jon Eulette wrote:No benefit to accuracy. If you use one make sure it is a 2 pc rod. 1 pc rod will damage bushing/barrel lockup (gall) because you have to twist bushing while in full battery.
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Not all. Some have a pin hole to capture the compressed spring. Others, like Dawson have a rocker which captures the spring. Once the spring is captured, remove the FLGR with captured spring. Then you can ease the slide back, or pull the barrel forward, so that bushing is not turned, when barrel is in full forward locked position.
Martin,
On Springfield pistols the slide doesn’t allow the recoil spring plug to come out the rear. So as you know most one piece guide rods are a royal pain. Obviously more than one way to skin a cat. 
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Post by LenV Sun May 21, 2023 5:19 pm

The other way to skin that cat is to go with a Wilson Combat full length guide rod and replace your bushing with a Briley bushing. I went that route with both my RO's. Ez pz
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Post by WesG Mon May 22, 2023 8:14 pm

I had a 2 puece in my LB. Got tired of wrestling with unscrewing it to pull the barrel for a proper cleaning. Put the 'GI' parts back in, much less hassle.

The other reason for it was to swap the Nelson on, but it hasn't been touched for a year or more ...

If I get serious about using that I'll buy another frame.

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Post by ermakevin Tue May 23, 2023 7:06 am

ok opened another can of worms for me , i go to the EGW site and wooooahhhhh ----12 1911 rods, stainless steel, Tungsten, one piece, two piece lol i may stay with my two piece in my RO,,, less stress, haha  i do like all the info that i pick up on this great site thank you willnewton
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