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Post by Tim:H11 12/27/2019, 7:37 pm

Anyone ever do the accu rail thing before? Anyone here have any thoughts or experience with the idea?
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Post by TonyH 12/27/2019, 7:42 pm

I had it done on a wadgun that was starting to loosen up a bit. Turned it back into a tack driver. Doug did a great job at very reasonable rates...and when and if it shoots loose again....$35 gets you a fitted gun again.
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Post by Allgoodhits 12/27/2019, 8:11 pm

I have owned several 1911 .38 Super Bianchi guns which were railed. Still have one of them. Never any issue. Just today, I shipped a .45 wad gun to Doug Jones to be railed. Estimated turnaround 3-4 weeks, and $240 not including shipping both ways.


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Post by David R 12/28/2019, 5:46 am

YES, I bought a junk  Stainless Gold Cup NM.  It looked like it had been run over by a truck.    Slide was SLOPPY.   Had Doug do the rails.  after about 1,000 rounds, its still tight as can be.    Net really broke in yet.

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Post by BE Mike 12/28/2019, 9:00 am

I have a Colt 1911 ball gun that I bought used for EIC matches. I sent it to Alex Hamilton in San Antonio for a slide tightening. When it was ready, he said that the tightening wouldn't hold very long with factory 230 grain ball ammo, which was required at the time. He suggested it be welded and recut or do the Accurail thing. I sent it to Larry Carter for Accurails. It is still smooth and tight after all these years. Larry told me that he had all of his 1911's Accurailed. I highly recommend Accurails.
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Post by oldsalt444 12/29/2019, 12:46 pm

Accurails work, plain and simple.  I have an old AMT stainless "Hardballer" which was never meant to be a match gun.  I put in a Kart barrel, a little trigger work, and had Doug install Accurails.  Turned out to be a decent service pistol.  I went distinguished with it.
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Post by Ghillieman 12/30/2019, 12:24 am

Got it on my wadgun built by Travis Strahan, not sure what it's supposed to do, but it shoots great.
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Post by 1joel1 12/30/2019, 11:36 am

Do a search and you'll find tons of opinions and details.

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Post by djw1cav 12/31/2019, 7:33 pm

Is the accurail limited to 1911's?  Can it be done on a S&W model 52?
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Post by oldsalt444 12/31/2019, 8:28 pm

djw1cav wrote:Is the accurail limited to 1911's?  Can it be done on a S&W model 52?
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I've seen Beretta 92's with accurails, so I don't see why it couldn't be done on an S&W 52.  The question is - why?  Unless you're shooting hot ammo regularly, which is a no-no in a 52, I can't understand how it could get loose enough to justify Accurails.
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Post by djw1cav 12/31/2019, 10:00 pm

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djw1cav wrote:Is the accurail limited to 1911's?  Can it be done on a S&W model 52?
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I've seen Beretta 92's with accurails, so I don't see why it couldn't be done on an S&W 52.  The question is - why?  Unless you're shooting hot ammo regularly, which is a no-no in a 52, I can't understand how it could get loose enough to justify Accurails.
The slide has loosened up since I purchased the gun 3 years (and 6500 rounds) ago.  My loads are the standard 710fps loads using WST or HP38, so I dont think it is the loads.  I have been wondering if the aimpoint H2 I mounted to the rear sight dovetail has anything to do with the slide loosening?  (It visibly wobbles from side to side with a little pressure). 
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Post by James Hensler 1/1/2020, 1:06 pm

Sending my 1911 out to him tomorrow or Friday
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Post by James Hensler 1/1/2020, 1:45 pm

What parts are you sending him or are you sending the pistol? I am thinking bare frame, barrel, new bushing, and bare slide
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Post by james r chapman 1/1/2020, 2:21 pm

James Hensler wrote:What parts are you sending him or are you sending the pistol? I am thinking bare frame, barrel, new bushing, and bare slide
Why??
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Post by James Hensler 1/1/2020, 2:31 pm

I am having the rails installed.
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Post by james r chapman 1/1/2020, 3:02 pm

Why not send the complete gun I mean
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Post by James Hensler 1/1/2020, 3:53 pm

Won’t I have to pay for a background check and transfer
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Post by James Hensler 1/1/2020, 3:54 pm

Does it have to go FFL to FFL and back
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Post by chopper 1/1/2020, 4:15 pm

I just take the slide off my guns and claim they are gun parts when I ship for work that way they aren't completely assembled. As long as you legally own the gun and not selling, a ffl is not needed. First thing is to ask the gunsmith what carrier he likes to deal with and any special instructions he wants you to follow. Then insure it well.
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Post by James Hensler 1/1/2020, 4:25 pm

I have a call into Doug
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Post by james r chapman 1/1/2020, 5:07 pm

James Hensler wrote:I have a call into Doug
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Post by mpolans 1/2/2020, 8:50 pm

chopper wrote:I just take the slide off my guns and claim they are gun parts when I ship for work that way they aren't completely assembled. As long as you legally own the gun and not selling, a ffl is not needed. First thing is to ask the gunsmith what carrier he likes to deal with and any special instructions he wants you to follow. Then insure it well.
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This is some seriously incorrect info right here.  Anyone following this risks serious prison time and losing their 2nd Amendment rights forever.

Recipient of a firearm (and yes, a bare frame is considered a "firearm" under applicable federal law) must have an FFL.  IIRC, there's one exception for a firearm that was sent by an owner to a manufacturer for repair that is being returned to the owner.

If you do not have an FFL, a handgun must be shipped via "common carrier" (FedEx, UPS, etc).  If you do have an FFL, you may use USPS to mail a handgun.  BTW, non-FFL holders may mail shotguns and rifles (not handguns) via USPS.

All this stuff about disassembling and call it "machine parts" or something similar might get really interesting if an insurance claim ever has to be fired or the gun ever disappears in transit.

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Post by chopper 1/2/2020, 9:46 pm

Mpolans, I assumed he was shipping his gun for repair, not for sale. Yes, I do send pistols out for repair I do use UPS and locally they asked me if the gun is assembled, so that's why I disassemble it.
 I've shipped complete guns in the past and UPS or FedEx never asked for a serial number, they should, I figure the gunsmith has to record his receiving and repairs in his federal log. FedEx didn't ship to me direct, I had to pick them up at their very secure warehouse with proper ID, same way with ammo. 
 My insurance claim should be good as there is not an itemized list of contents, nor was it ever asked. I always ask the gunsmith what carrier and any instructions to follow before I send my firearms.
 I apologize if my language or wording was wrong. Maybe you could let us know how you sent your firearms for repair in the past.
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Post by James Hensler 1/3/2020, 1:40 am

I sent it through my FFL to Doug. 38 bucks
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Post by chopper 1/3/2020, 8:21 am

James, glad you got it shipped. So did he use USPS or common carrier? I'd like to know for sure, because I was probably shipping my stuff illegally trying to save money.
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