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Post by ASchlem Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:47 pm

Sorry, i'm sure similar topics have 1k post spread around this forum but i can't find a list of components a Current Bullseye Gun Smith would use on there personal 1911 wadgun. I have already decided on a Jem frame and slide, KC's sear/hammer and Kart barrel. But what about all the other pins, trigger, guide rod, ect... Do all the popular smiths in our discipline use the same parts?

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Post by james r chapman Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:13 pm

my suggestion, take the short cut and use EGW parts.
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Post by ASchlem Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:20 pm

Short Cut??

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Post by james r chapman Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:24 pm

ASchlem wrote:Short Cut??
Quicker and easier then buying separate components from many sources.

Also Harrison Designs. 
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just a suggestion.

my experience stay away from Fusion.
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Post by SW-52 Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:51 am

EGW, harrison smooth face trigger, Kc's roll trigger kit is the way to go.
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Post by James Hensler Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:37 am

Please don’t laugh but I think a good Smith could take just about any parts made today and build a X ring 50 yard pistol. I believe the secret to the great shooters are the hand fitting of the barrel, bushing, lugs, slide, and frame. All the other parts are personal preference and only add the the smoothness of the trigger pull and such.
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Post by CR10X Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:02 am

As for me, I leave it up to the gunsmith, except for grip safety. Typically, they have a preference based on frame or experience. He knows what works for him for the build and I've learned my limitations.

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Post by james r chapman Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:41 am

I thought the OP was building his own.
Could be wrong, in which case, let the smith decide
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Post by mhayford45 Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:21 pm

Wilson Combat makes excellent parts. I would stay away from stainless hammers ... they do not feel right.

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Post by CR10X Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:02 pm

You are correct and that was my point, in a round about way. Gunsmiths that have built guns have preferences and experience on their side (and a lot of that probably comes from bad experiences). So, asking a general list might not be as informative as direct discussions with a more experienced group. And so, let the gunsmith decide! 😉

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Post by ASchlem Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:50 pm

CR10X wrote:You are correct and that was my point, in a round about way.  Gunsmiths that have built guns have preferences and experience on their side (and a lot of that probably comes from bad experiences).  So, asking a general list might not be as informative as direct discussions with a more experienced group.  And so, let the gunsmith decide! 😉

LOL,  that is why i asked what the gunsmiths were using not a general list.
 
Sorry, i'm sure similar topics have 1k post spread around this forum but i can't find a list of components a Current Bullseye Gun Smith would use on there personal 1911 wadgun. I have already decided on a Jem frame and slide, KC's sear/hammer and Kart barrel. But what about all the other pins, trigger, guide rod, ect... Do all the popular smiths in our discipline use the same parts?

I want to build the gun with parts that are preferred by our gunsmiths

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Post by CR10X Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:59 am

ASchlem, first thanks for understanding the joking aspect of my response! After listening to gunsmiths and reading posts for years, even they have different preferences. Have fun with your build!
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Post by kc.crawford.7 Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:00 am

You've made your decision on the truly important parts.  My rule of thumb would be look for bar stock parts for the balance.  Pin sets that are through hardened and then ground on a swiss machine (EGW), triggers I like Harrison Design, beavertail I use EGW.  Guide rod, are you going to use a GI rod or a full length rod?  If full length I would recommend a 2 piece and regardless I would also use EGW.  Are you sensing a trend here?
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Post by ASchlem Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:25 pm

Thanks For the response KC.

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Post by Tripscape Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:01 pm

KC, how do you feel about Dawson parts? They seem to be very good quality and zero complaints from 2011 and STI crowd. I have their pins, guide plug and plunger set. Seem to be very well hardened, but can't compare machining and finish to EGW as I never owned EGW parts. Any insight? Price is comparable to EGW.

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Post by kc.crawford.7 Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:31 am

I've used some of Dawson's parts in the past.  But it was sights and magazines.  Have no knowledge of actual gun parts from them.
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Post by rich.tullo Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:41 pm

+1 on EGW
+1 on KC Roll

Greider Precision trigger (easiest to fit)
Harrison trigger (toughest)


Get a true radius sear jig. 


The KC trigger has a really amazing roll but if you are less then a master you might lose the roll. The True radius jib will do a perfect roll and a very nice short roll for cheap. 


If you need an extra sear or two extreme engineering makes a great ultra lightweight sear that is sort of rolled to start and they are very hard and way better than C&S. 


Wilson 2 piece guide rod


EGW bushing 


Kart or KKM Barrel


Do not skimp on the pins shitty pins can ruin a trigger job or frame. 


Whatever KC and Jon says is 99.999999% right everyone else has an opinion. 
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Post by ASchlem Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:51 pm

Smiths, what barrel do you recommend? KKM, kart?

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Post by ASchlem Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:59 pm

This build is definitely on. I spoke with the company that uses the frame style I like and there is no way i would do business with him, enough said about that. I may send the gun to KC, John, or Sams for the fitting of the barrel. I would like to do the majority of the work myself, but i also want it to be the most accurate gun in my bullseye box.

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Post by ASchlem Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:46 pm

I have a kkm 1:13 and a Kart on the way. I'm going to do some more research about cone barrels. I think i will rebarrel my bear wad gun that way. If I like it I wil do it again on the complete build. Can't wait to get started.

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Post by ASchlem Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:10 pm

Decided to leave the Bear in its original configuration. But im replacing the barrel. I will do a cone style on me new gun when the frame and slide arrive1911 parts for new build Kart210
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Post by ASchlem Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:25 pm

1911 parts for new build 20201110
Dressed a radius on the wheel and set up the magnasine. 
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Post by ASchlem Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:29 pm

Finnish the lower lugs with a Weigand fixture1911 parts for new build 20201112

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Post by ASchlem Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:34 pm

Looks pretty good? A little dykem Shows the contact with the slide stop pin1911 parts for new build 20201114
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Post by ASchlem Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:37 pm

Little free time waiting for the turkey. Though I would build a cat head, some call it a double spider.1911 parts for new build 20201116
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