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Anyone has experience on new Hammerli XEsse Steel Frame?

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Post by cfirimar 3/30/2021, 4:34 pm

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Hi folks,
I see on Walther website that they have 'new' Hammerli Xesse SF models, 
I don't have the older Xesse models, but has some experience on 215 models. I am thinking about getting an Xesse or an SF model.

Wonder if anyone has experience on them, my questions are: 
1) I checked a couple forums, seems the original Xesse model is also made with steel frames, is this perception correct?
2) what are the improvements of the new SF models over the older ones?
3) seems many Xesse models has 3 dot sights, which are less desirable for bullseye disciplines, how do folks like their iron sights?

Thanks in advance!

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Post by Avalanche 11/20/2021, 1:36 am

bbh791 wrote:There is no way a bore snake will damage a barrel.

Definitely!!!!

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Post by WesG 11/20/2021, 10:19 am

I think the main boresnake issue is they get dirty and you're dragging who knows what thru the bore. And, rimfire priming compound is abrasive. The general downfall of smallbore rifle barrels is erosion in the 'throat'. But we're talking 100k rds or so.

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Post by BE Mike 11/21/2021, 9:29 am

SilentAssassin wrote:
BE Mike wrote:
popchevy wrote:Took my IPSC apart to clean after over 1000 rds. I see no signs of wear on the slide notch, got the bore sparkling clean , greased it up and put it back together. Shot a personal best that evening. Wonderful gun !
I personally would never use a .22 cal. bore snake on the barrel of a target .22 pistol. I think you are doing more damage than good. As per Larry Carter, a good .22 pistol barrel doesn't need cleaning, only the chamber.

There are varying opinions on this.
Mine is such that a good 22 target barrel Does need cleaning. By not cleaning, you're asking for trouble down the line.
Here is why;

22 ammunition is probably the most dirty round you can chamber, then put a projectile down the barrel ( any barrel).
Technically lead is a lubricant. In theory, each shot you fire should lubricate the bore.
This is not the case.

If the Lead projectile was the only thing traveling the bore upon a fired shot, then yes, it would not only be cleaner, but it would also coat the bore, which to some extent , it does.
The blast behind the projectile and to some degree in front of the projectile creates soot, carbon, powder residue,,,, and what all else not......which all gets mixed into a super heated blast, in the bore. And the chamber.

The lead is laid down into the lands and grooves of the ( target barrel ) you guessed it, along with other previously mentioned, gunk.
Then the uncleaned gun is then put down, or into a safe  for storage. Over time , moisture can accumulate within the bore mixing in with the afore mentioned gunk.
Next thing you know, you put a bore scope in the bore and start looking around.............and low and behold, there is pitting in the bore of your nice target barrel.
I have seen this before,,,,,,,,,,A lot.........from folks who thought you never have to clean the barrels bore on a 22.

In other breaking news; people will fire copper plated rounds , buy the hundreds, if not thousands, never thinking twice about it.
On a hardness scale, copper is a 2.5 - 3, whereas brass is 3-4. Not much difference.
Yet people are afraid to put a bristled brass brush down a bore for cleaning.
Something about this makes 0 sense to me. To each his own.......of mice and men.
Larry Carter was a high master and knew more about Hammerli pistols than probably anyone in the United States. He never seemed to have any problems shooting high master scores with his Hammerli 215. I don't think I'm wrong following the advice of an expert. As I type this, I'm looking at a framed target from the first ten shots at a Frank J. Bickar Memorial Regional, I shot many years ago. Not a great x count, but by gum it is a clean target! Following Larry's advice worked for me and my Hammerli 208s.
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