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Springfield 1911 9mm Target version

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Post by Scota4570 12/11/2023, 6:22 pm

20" groups at 25 yards from a rest.  The shooter consistently shoots expert or better with a decent pistol.  

He let a local smith work on it, unfortunately.  I would have told him to send it back to Springfield.  I have not looked at it.  Unless it is the worst rattle trap on the planet I'd guess defective barrel.  The local guy says it needs to be "broken in".  I say BS.  

In California, what would you do about it next?  ....Other than move about of California Smile

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Post by JHHolliday 12/11/2023, 6:40 pm

Send it to Mr Eulette  Springfield 1911 9mm Target version 1f44d
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Post by tomd999 12/11/2023, 6:45 pm

Hiya,

I have one of the loaded type SA's in 9mm, it's very choosey as to what bullets you use. If I use Hornady HAPs it will group a lot better than any open base/FMJ bullet. (In a Ransom it's horrible no matter what bullet as the frame/slide fit is sloppier than either of the Remington Rand I have from WW2) I get a TC 130g lead from a caster somewhat local that I can get some decent 25 yard groupings as long as I don't try to push them, still working on that but it's showing promise.

I would also look at the crown to see if it has any defects or one of those crowns like someone used a deburing tool on it, I've recrowned several pistols, including ones that had no defects, just the factory chamfer and each responded with better groups/scores. 

That's the easy stuff to look at first.

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Post by Allgoodhits 12/11/2023, 7:30 pm

I have two friends who recently purchased new SA Garrison Models. At 25 yds they were 6-8" at best guns. One of the guys purchased a KART EXACT FIT Barrel. I fit it in the gun and now it is a 1.5" gun at 25 yds. If I knew what I was doing, I think it would be 1" @ 25 yds gun. About $250-260 including the installation kit and some patience and a 3-7hrs and you will have a good gun. I have done 3 Kart Exact Fit barrels now, and one was a ramped barrel. All turned out pretty good. Hoping to get better and faster at it. Learning all the time.
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Post by NukeMMC 12/11/2023, 7:35 pm

JHHolliday wrote:Send it to Mr Eulette  Springfield 1911 9mm Target version 1f44d
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Added a 38super barrel and it's a HAMMER.
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Post by Bigtrout 12/12/2023, 7:37 am

My SA RO9 5" is pretty finicky digesting ammo.  Fortunately I hanload 125 HAP and get 3" groups at 50 yds manual rest.  20"@25 has serious issues no matter the load.
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Post by BE Mike 12/12/2023, 7:53 am

How does it do from a machine rest? What ammo is he feeding it?
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Post by javaduke 12/12/2023, 9:56 am

Definitely talk to Mr. Eulette, if he cannot fix it, then nobody can.
Or if he's too busy, you can send it to me. Normally I would say fitting a new bushing is an easy fix, but 20" is a lot for 25 yards distance, even an average mixmaster CMP mil-spec 1911 would shoot better, so I'm afraid the only solution is to fit a new barrel.

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Post by bruce martindale 12/12/2023, 10:54 am

I have one from say 6 years ago…slide fit and appearance were awesome but performance was horrible even at 25 yards. Excessive throat clearances.. could load 148 hbwc sticking out over .25” of case. I rebarreled. Fire control parts were bad too so plan on that.

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