Ruger Mark IV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAteY5RFEoI

Finally!!!

NEAT!

They have a target version as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqbiyPMA7CE

They're going to sell a whole bunch of these. I never thought it was that hard to disassemble the old ones once it was done a couple of times, but this makes it a snap. Them getting rid of the problems, that were formally presented as improvements will be popular, as well.

I sure hope that the receiver to the frame locks up good and tight because it has been problematic on many ruger's for it to be loose.
Jon

Looks great. The smooth back-strap looks comfortable; the pointy release stick from my Mk.3 digs into my palm after a while. They took away the loaded-pistol indicator, a minus in my book as I liked that feature to confirm I had a loaded pistol before a string. They kept the magazine disconnect; hopefully it doesn't hinder too much with the trigger.

I'll wait for a few more reviews, but it's likely the gun I'll recommend when new guys ask me what to get.

Does anyone know if they got rid of the ridiculous "magazine safety". "feature"

Chip

I hope this drives the price of MKII's down so I can get one cheap! 

Maybe a government model!

Chip, the magazine safety, or mag disconnect, is still there... Yet, I hear the pistol is not available for sale in California or Massachusetts.

desben wrote:Chip, the magazine safety, or mag disconnect, is still there... Yet, I hear the pistol is not available for sale in California or Massachusetts.

Will these moronic laws ever go away? They have nothing to do with crime reduction nor firearms safety. They just make it harder to own handguns and deterring people (with needless rules) from being able to buy handguns seems to be the true purpose. Will the public ever come to this conclusion and demand that these laws be repealed, so law-abiding folks can buy guns for legitimate target shooting, like bullseye matches?

The videos did say the bolt can be sling shot on the 4 so they did change the mag safety in how it works. this should be better entry level bullseye 22 than the mk3

DavidR wrote:The videos did say the bolt can be sling shot on the 4 so they did change the mag safety in how it works. this should be better entry level bullseye 22 than the mk3

You actually can sling shot the bolt on a MKIII Target (standard frame) but not any of the 22/45 models.

I can slingshot the bolt on my MKIII 22/45. It just takes a very simple mod; you remove the detent ball from the slide release button. But yes, in stock form, it's broken.

The 22 Plinkster video had some inaccuracies in it with respect to the Mk III.  He had a 22/45 in his video and talked as if that was the only MkIII version.  You can get a MkIII that looks just like the MkIV hunter he shows with the metal frame and slide release tab.  You can sling shot that version of the MkIII as well.

From what I can tell the biggest difference between MkIII and MkIV are:
-easy take down with push of a button (which also drives a mainspring housing difference)
-no more loaded chamber indicator
-ambi safety

Other than that, I didn't notice any other differences.

The new one looks good, but seems awfully expensive right now.

539.00 for the MkIII hunter or 599.00 for the MkIV. The take down feature is worth the 60.00 difference.

LenV
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/587320796

I guess that's what I get for looking at gun broker.

LenV wrote:539.00 for the MkIII hunter or 599.00 for the MkIV. The take down feature is worth the 60.00 difference.

LenV
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/587320796

The new take down system may indeed be worth the $60 but in actuality they are finally fixing a defect in the design. They as well as everyone else knew about the defect and I expect they finally changed the design so as to not lose too much market share to the S&W Victory (which they still need to compete with in price). They probably want to (and should) sell the gun at the same price as the Mk III but to do so would make all the existing Mk IIIs white elephants in need of deep discounts to keep them from taking up shelf space ..... forever. Give them a year or two to clear existing inventory and the price will come down. For anyone with a burning need to have a MK III instead, my bet is that you don't have to rush out and buy one and perhaps the price and availability of Mk IIs will improve some now.

Bruce

And so it begins!

[url=https://www.kygunco.com/productgroup?name=MKIII&utm_source=KyGunCo marketing&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=MKIII Blowout]https://www.kygunco.com/productgroup?name=MKIII&utm_source=KyGunCo%20Marketing&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=MKIII%20Blowout[/url]

I predict prices have a little more room to come down, particularly as Mk IVs show up on gun shop shelves. Then again I have never been a genius at judging markets.

Bruce

Hideous.

Disassembly was never that bad, you just needed special tools. Like a rubber mallet, and a vise. Meanwhile, the magazine disconnect is still there, and they apparently no longer include an optics rail with the gun. Whether or not the new disassembly actually works remains to be seen. Some Victory owners report that the S&W takedown is occasionally not so easy--right down to breaking wrenches.

They should just go back to making the Mk II and be done with it.

Keyholed wrote:Hideous.

Disassembly was never that bad, you just needed special tools. Like a rubber mallet, and a vise. Meanwhile, the magazine disconnect is still there, and they apparently no longer include an optics rail with the gun. Whether or not the new disassembly actually works remains to be seen. Some Victory owners report that the S&W takedown is occasionally not so easy--right down to breaking wrenches.

They should just go back to making the Mk II and be done with it.

The new disassembly really does work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqbiyPMA7CE

Gotta give it more time--and more numbers--than that. The S&W Victory didn't have any problems reported for awhile.

@ Keyholed

That's true it didn't.  When my local range acquired a sample and I rented it, I found it to not be 100% reliable.  The accuracy was excellent however...

Keyholed wrote:Gotta give it more time--and more numbers--than that. The S&W Victory didn't have any problems reported for awhile.

Buy a MK IV and report back after a case of quality .22 ammo. Somebody has to test the waters!

Hi all.  I'm new to this forum and have been poking around a little.  I would not classify myself as a Bullseye shooter by any means, but am distinguished in rifle.  This is my 1st post.
I recently purchased a MK IV Stainless Target and took it to the range today.  This is my 1st MK pistol, so my observations are coming from someone new to the platform.  
Disassembly - its exactly what people from the forum describe.  Its super easy.  I didn't even need to look at the instructions.  It comes apart in seconds. 
Ammunition - I took every brand of 22 ammo I own with me.  Remington Thunderbolt, Federal Ultra Match, Wolf Match and CCI Green Tag.  The only ammo that the pistol would cycle was Remington Thunderbolt.
Trigger - I have nothing to reference MK triggers, but this one feels terrible (heavy).  I'm used to Geissele's on service rifles, and this one felt like a disaster compared to them.  The 1st thing I'm going to look at is getting a better trigger.
Today was my 1st time shooting at the 50 yd target and I was able to keep most of the rounds on paper with a little practice and sight tuning.  
While I was disappointed with the ammo issues and the trigger, I do like the pistol.  It seems to shoot decent groups (for me). It was also a fun gun to shoot.  I could also do with out the magazine disconnect.