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Clarification of CMP Load commands
by TomH_pa Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:14 pm
From the most recent CMP shooters news email:
Pistol Competition Rules Update. The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) has announced minor changes to the CMP Highpower Rifle and Pistol Competition Rules. The edits, which pertain to pistol competitors, have been made to add clarification to certain competition instructions that have created confusion in past events. Those changes are:
Pistol Loading (LOAD command) - Loading pistols for all match series is done by inserting five rounds in a magazine (or cylinder), placing the magazine in the pistol and closing the action. Competitors may pre-load magazines. Magazines containing cartridges may not be inserted in pistols until the command LOAD is given.
Clarification: The magazine should be filled with ammo BEFORE the "LOAD" command is given - not after. The term "LOAD" refers to adding the filled magazine into the pistol.
.22 Rimfire Pistol Match - Competitors must be in the ready position with pistols down at a 45-degree angle for .22 Rimfire Pistols at the command "READY ON THE FIRING LINE."
Clarification: Pistols should be rested on the bench UNTIL this command is given. After "READY ON THE FIRING LINE" is announced, pistols should be raised from the bench to the directed 45 degree angle at this time and remain there until the command "COMMENCE FIRING" is given.
Pistol Competition Rules Update. The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) has announced minor changes to the CMP Highpower Rifle and Pistol Competition Rules. The edits, which pertain to pistol competitors, have been made to add clarification to certain competition instructions that have created confusion in past events. Those changes are:
Pistol Loading (LOAD command) - Loading pistols for all match series is done by inserting five rounds in a magazine (or cylinder), placing the magazine in the pistol and closing the action. Competitors may pre-load magazines. Magazines containing cartridges may not be inserted in pistols until the command LOAD is given.
Clarification: The magazine should be filled with ammo BEFORE the "LOAD" command is given - not after. The term "LOAD" refers to adding the filled magazine into the pistol.
.22 Rimfire Pistol Match - Competitors must be in the ready position with pistols down at a 45-degree angle for .22 Rimfire Pistols at the command "READY ON THE FIRING LINE."
Clarification: Pistols should be rested on the bench UNTIL this command is given. After "READY ON THE FIRING LINE" is announced, pistols should be raised from the bench to the directed 45 degree angle at this time and remain there until the command "COMMENCE FIRING" is given.
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Re: Clarification of CMP Load commands
by STEVE SAMELAK Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:09 pm
Ummmm does this 45 degree stuff apply to more than the .22 EIC match now?
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Re: Clarification of CMP Load commands
by bogierich Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:11 pm
Here's the link to the site:
http://thecmp.org/2017-cmp-competition-rules-released/
http://thecmp.org/2017-cmp-competition-rules-released/
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Re: Clarification of CMP Load commands
by STEVE SAMELAK Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:27 pm
Never mind, I didn't register as a CMP match. Not always the brightest crayon in the box.
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Re: Clarification of CMP Load commands
by CR10X Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:02 pm
Deleted, not worth the effort.
These are not the droids you are looking for.
CR
These are not the droids you are looking for.
CR
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Re: Clarification of CMP Load commands
by STEVE SAMELAK Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:12 pm
I feel that because we as a group tend to be more detail & safety minded, we can work thru the miscues without much fuss.
THERE EXCEPTIONS, but most of us insist on playing safe.
THERE EXCEPTIONS, but most of us insist on playing safe.
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Re: Clarification of CMP Load commands
by weber1b Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:47 pm
It is my understanding, and it has been directed at matches I have fired, that the gun may be aimed during the commands, so long as it is in the off the bench 45 degree position on "Ready on the firing line". One would not then have to have it resting on the bench prior to this point.TomH_pa wrote:
.22 Rimfire Pistol Match - Competitors must be in the ready position with pistols down at a 45-degree angle for .22 Rimfire Pistols at the command "READY ON THE FIRING LINE."
Clarification: Pistols should be rested on the bench UNTIL this command is given. After "READY ON THE FIRING LINE" is announced, pistols should be raised from the bench to the directed 45 degree angle at this time and remain there until the command "COMMENCE FIRING" is given.
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Re: Clarification of CMP Load commands
by SteveT Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:57 pm
I sent this question to the CMP today after reading the shooters news and received the reply below. In case anyone else had the same question as me.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Michelle Woods
Date: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: 22 Rimfire Rules Question
To: sdturner@gmail.com
This has not changed from 2015…
http://thecmp.org/instructions-for-cmp-22-rimfire-pistol-eic-matches/
LOAD command, the pistol may be raised to the target to check position alignment, but it must be lowered so that it is down in the 45-degree ready position when the READY ON THE FIRING LINE command is given. The pistol cannot be lifted up until the targets begin to turn.
Ready Position Rehearsal. For 22 Rimfire Pistol EIC Matches conducted in 2015, the CMP recommends that Range Officers have competitors go through a ready position rehearsal before conducting the first timed-fire series. To do the rehearsal, the Range Officer should go through the command sequence for a timed-fire series and ask all competitors to use a closed fist to simulate holding the pistol in the ready position and lifting it up to the target. Block Officers should check the ready positions to be sure arms are down at 45-degree angles and that they are not lifted (start to move up) until targets turn.
Ready position violations: On left, the pistol is too high; on right, the pistol is resting on the bench. The muzzle must be clear of the bench or anything on the it (pistol rest, support or pad). The arm must be down at a 45-degree angle or as close to the bench as possible without touching.
Thanks,
Michelle Woods
Thanks for your continued support of the CMP.
Customer Service/Program Support
mwoods@thecmp.org
[url=tel:(419) 635-2141]419 635-2141 ext.722[/url]
in the last CMP Shooters News it said:.22 Rimfire Pistol Match - Competitors must be in the ready position with pistols down at a 45-degree angle for .22 Rimfire Pistols at the command "READY ON THE FIRING LINE."Does this mean that shooters are not allowed to raise the gun and align with the target at any time after the load command is given?Clarification: Pistols should be rested on the bench UNTIL this command is given. After "READY ON THE FIRING LINE" is announced, pistols should be raised from the bench to the directed 45 degree angle at this time and remain there until the command "COMMENCE FIRING" is given.
Thank you,
Steve Turner
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Michelle Woods
Date: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: 22 Rimfire Rules Question
To: sdturner@gmail.com
This has not changed from 2015…
http://thecmp.org/instructions-for-cmp-22-rimfire-pistol-eic-matches/
LOAD command, the pistol may be raised to the target to check position alignment, but it must be lowered so that it is down in the 45-degree ready position when the READY ON THE FIRING LINE command is given. The pistol cannot be lifted up until the targets begin to turn.
Ready Position Rehearsal. For 22 Rimfire Pistol EIC Matches conducted in 2015, the CMP recommends that Range Officers have competitors go through a ready position rehearsal before conducting the first timed-fire series. To do the rehearsal, the Range Officer should go through the command sequence for a timed-fire series and ask all competitors to use a closed fist to simulate holding the pistol in the ready position and lifting it up to the target. Block Officers should check the ready positions to be sure arms are down at 45-degree angles and that they are not lifted (start to move up) until targets turn.
Ready position violations: On left, the pistol is too high; on right, the pistol is resting on the bench. The muzzle must be clear of the bench or anything on the it (pistol rest, support or pad). The arm must be down at a 45-degree angle or as close to the bench as possible without touching.
Thanks,
Michelle Woods
Thanks for your continued support of the CMP.
Customer Service/Program Support
mwoods@thecmp.org
[url=tel:(419) 635-2141]419 635-2141 ext.722[/url]
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