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HBWC load for S&W Model 52

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Post by PaulK51 10/29/2022, 5:13 am

Does anybody have any experience with using Hogdon's Titegroup powderer loading 148gr HBWC for a Model 52-2? I just got the pistol and have started loading with 2.9 gr of Bullseye. The load is accurate and functions reliably however Bullseye is hard to come by at a reasonable price. I had been using the bullseye for 45 ACP but am considering a change to titegroup. Was hoping I could get a good load with it for my 52. Any thoughts or suggestions?

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Post by shanneba 10/29/2022, 6:12 am

Here is a thread from a couple of years ago on using titegroup in a model 52-

Model 52 load question (bullseyeforum.net)

Hodgdon shows 2.7 gr of Titegroup with a 148 gr HBWC giving 771 fps in a 7.7" barrel.
Reloading Data Center | Hodgdon (hodgdonreloading.com)

My older Speer loading manuals show 2.5 - 2.7 gr of Bullseye for the model 52 specifically.
2.5 is shown as the lowest charge for reliable cycling with accuracy.
They didn't show Titegroup back then

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Post by DA/SA 10/29/2022, 6:31 am

I used 2.7 TG with 148 HBWC a few years ago, but it was in a revolver. 

Just as a comparison, the "Modern Reloading Second Edition" by Lee, lists 2.7 Iitegroup for "148 Grain Wadcutter", and 2.7 of Bullseye as their starting loads. 

As usual, use at your own risk.

Your 2.9 of Bullseye seems slightly high to me, as my 52 with a rail and Ultradot shoots 2.7 of BE or WST just fine.
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Post by Kp321 10/29/2022, 6:47 am

Never have used TG, have stuck with Bullseye, 2.8 gr and 231, 3.0 gr. No matter what the cost per pound for Bullseye, with over 2000 rounds per pound, the cost is minor, IMO.

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Post by Rodger Barthlow 10/29/2022, 7:59 am

Kp321 wrote:Never have used TG, have stuck with Bullseye, 2.8 gr and 231, 3.0 gr. No matter what the cost per pound for Bullseye, with over 2000 rounds per pound, the cost is minor, IMO.
That looks like the old PPC load which is just fast enough not to blow the skirt off the HBWC.
Faster loads stabilizes the 148 HBWC better at 50yds and helps to eliminate Key holing.
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Post by brdrgrd 10/29/2022, 3:54 pm

I use 2.6 grains of titegroup with 148 grain dewc. Excellent results out of my model 52.

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Post by jglenn21 10/29/2022, 5:33 pm

2.8 of WST works fine in my wife's 52 with an mounted UD
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